{"id":102233,"date":"2026-10-05T06:00:52","date_gmt":"2026-10-04T20:30:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=102233"},"modified":"2026-10-05T06:52:00","modified_gmt":"2026-10-04T21:22:00","slug":"the-art-of-the-phoenix","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/the-art-of-the-phoenix\/","title":{"rendered":"The Art of the Phoenix"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-102235\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/phoenixing.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1672\" height=\"874\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/phoenixing.jpg 1672w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/phoenixing-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/phoenixing-1024x535.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/phoenixing-768x401.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/phoenixing-1536x803.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1672px) 100vw, 1672px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a business model in the solar industry I\u2019d love to see burn to the ground. Trouble is, fire is how it survives.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s called phoenixing. A shonky company racks up debts, dies owing everyone, then pops up a week later with the same team, the same phone number and a slightly different name. Like the mythical bird, it rises from its own ashes. Unlike the bird, it sets everyone else on fire first.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re buying solar or a battery, you need to know how to spot these grubs, because when a phoenix rises, your warranty stays in the ashes. It takes five minutes and a free government website.<\/p>\n<h2>Phoenixing explained<\/h2>\n<p>A company is its own legal \u201cperson\u201d. When it goes broke, its debts die with it, and the directors keep their houses. That\u2019s limited liability (the &#8216;Ltd&#8217; in Pty Ltd), and it\u2019s the reason anyone dares to start a business.<\/p>\n<p>Phoenix operators abuse it on purpose. They run up bills with suppliers, subbies and the tax office, shovel anything worth having (the brand, the website, the phone number, the customer list) into a fresh company for peanuts, then liquidate the old one with an empty bank account. Monday morning, business as usual.<\/p>\n<h2>Why solar cowboys love it<\/h2>\n<p>Solar is phoenix heaven. Anyone can start a solar retailer with a few hundred bucks in ASIC fees, some bought leads from a dodgy lead-seller and subbies. The customer pays up front. The wholesaler and the subbies wait 30 days or more.<\/p>\n<p>The wholesaler who supplied the panels pays for it<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/the-art-of-the-phoenix\/#en-102233-1' id='enref-102233-1' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(102233)'>1<\/a><\/sup>, so does the two-man install crew still chasing 15 invoices, and so does the ATO, which means you and me. A 2018 PwC report put the cost of phoenixing at up to <a href=\"https:\/\/hansardsearch.parliament.sa.gov.au\/daily\/lh\/2018-11-28\/17\">$5.13 billion a year<\/a>, most of it unpaid bills to other businesses.<\/p>\n<p>And then there\u2019s you. Your workmanship warranty was a promise from a company that no longer exists, and the new outfit with the same logo owes you nothing. Your panel and inverter warranties survive, but good luck finding a decent installer keen to adopt someone else\u2019s dodgy job. The Australian Consumer Law right to compensation <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/australian-consumer-law-batteries\/\">I wrote about recently<\/a> is worth what\u2019s left in the company\u2019s bank account. Nothing.<\/p>\n<h2>How they get away with it<\/h2>\n<p>Phoenixing is illegal, and laws passed in 2020 tightened the screws. But they usually get away with it anyway, for some depressingly simple reasons:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Liquidators get paid from what\u2019s left in the company. A phoenix leaves nothing, so often nobody digs.<\/li>\n<li>Nobody sane spends $100,000 on lawyers to chase a $30,000 debt.<\/li>\n<li>The director on paper is often a spouse, a brother-in-law or a mate, while the real operator pulls the strings.<\/li>\n<li>The slick ones put the company into administration with a friendly administrator, who sells the brand to a relative for a pittance \u201cto raise money for creditors\u201d. The 2020 claw-back rules don\u2019t apply to sales made by an administrator.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Even when ASIC nails one, the maximum ban is five years.<\/p>\n<p>The regulators won&#8217;t save you.<\/p>\n<h2>How to spot a phoenix before you sign<\/h2>\n<p>Grab your quote and open <a href=\"https:\/\/abr.business.gov.au\/\">ABN Lookup<\/a>, the free government register.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Get the ABN. It should be on the quote. If it isn\u2019t, next quote.<\/li>\n<li>Check when the ABN went active. It\u2019s on the \u201cABN status\u201d line. If the website says \u201cProudly serving Aussie families since 2009\u201d and the ABN went live last year, someone has some explaining to do.<\/li>\n<li>Check the business names and their \u201cfrom\u201d dates. If the business name only got attached to this ABN recently, the brand has moved ABNs. This also catches the crafty ones who park the business in an old dormant company to make the ABN look respectable. Since November 2025, ABN Lookup only shows registered business names, so if the brand on your quote isn\u2019t there at all, ask why.<\/li>\n<li>Search the brand name with \u201cInclude cancelled ABNs\u201d ticked. A trail like Ronald\u2019s Solar Pty Ltd (cancelled 2021), Ronald\u2019s Solar Group Pty Ltd (cancelled 2024) and Ronald\u2019s Solar Australia Pty Ltd (active since 2024) is a bird that\u2019s been on fire before. So is a dead company renamed to a number, like \u201cACN 123 456 789 Pty Ltd\u201d, formerly Ronald\u2019s Solar Pty Ltd. That often means the name was flogged off before the company died.<\/li>\n<li>Look up the dead ones on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asic.gov.au\/online-services\/search-asic-registers\">ASIC\u2019s free company search<\/a>. It shows their status and the documents they\u2019ve lodged, including any liquidator\u2019s appointment. For a few bucks, an ASIC extract tells you who the directors were.<\/li>\n<li>Compare the old directors with the new ones. Same names is a red flag. So are matching surnames and home addresses, because the \u201cnew owner\u201d is often family.<\/li>\n<li>Run the directors through ASIC\u2019s free <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asic.gov.au\/online-services\/search-asic-registers\/banned-and-disqualified-registers\">banned and disqualified register<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Alternatively, paste the above into AI and get it to check for you.<\/p>\n<h2>A new ABN isn\u2019t always dodgy<\/h2>\n<p>Before you write off every installer with a young ABN, a caveat. An ABN belongs to a legal entity, and honest businesses change entities all the time. A sparky who\u2019s been a sole trader for 15 years incorporates. The accountant moves the business into a family trust. The business gets sold. Each of those <a href=\"https:\/\/abr.gov.au\/business-super-funds-charities\/updating-or-cancelling-your-abn\/changing-your-business-structure\">means a new ABN<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>SolarQuotes would trip my own check. When I sold to Origin, I sold the assets, not my company. Peacock Media Group Pty Ltd is still mine, still registered, and it paid every debt from my years of ownership after the sale. Origin acquired the SolarQuotes business assets and incorporated it into a company it already owned, renaming it SolarQuotes Home Electrification Pty Ltd.<\/p>\n<p>So the real test is what happened to the old entity. If it\u2019s still alive, or was wound up with every bill paid, fine. If it went into liquidation owing money and the new mob popped up weeks later wearing its logo, that\u2019s your phoenix.<\/p>\n<h2>Give your money to the honest ones<\/h2>\n<p>I\u2019ll finish by sticking up for the solar companies that do the right thing. Same ABN for 15 years. They\u2019ve survived feed-in tariff cuts, rebate changes and more market slumps than I can count.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re not the cheapest quote because their price includes paying their bills and setting aside money for warranty claims. The phoenix quote is cheaper because someone else is paying for it: the wholesaler&#8217;s insurer, the subbie, the taxpayer, and eventually you. And every job the phoenix wins is one that an honest installer lost.<\/p>\n<p>An old ABN isn\u2019t a guarantee, and a young company with a clean record and straight answers deserves a fair go. But do the five-minute check before you sign anything. If the dates don\u2019t match the story, get another quote.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There\u2019s a business model in the solar industry I\u2019d love to see burn to the ground. 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