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Results from a poll indicating 68% of Australians surveyed back so-called high-efficiency, low emissions (HELE) coal fired power generation have been met with a healthy degree of skepticism.<\/p>\n

As we mentioned<\/a> earlier today, HELE coal fired power stations aren’t all that highly efficient or low in emissions; with the latter ranging from 800-880g CO2\/kWh (Supercritical HELE) down to 670-740g CO2\/kWh for advanced ultra-supercritical HELE. Even at the most optimistic, that’s still 670g CO2\/kWh more than wind and solar power.<\/p>\n

HELE also still involves digging up the little black rock and environmental carnage that accompanies coal mining, plus emissions when burning it other than CO2 that are toxic<\/a>.<\/p>\n

However, the Minerals Council of Australia says there’s “strong support” in the country for HELE.<\/p>\n

“Polling of 1,300 Australians aged 18 and over, conducted during October and November 2017 by JWS Research, found 68% of Australians supported investment in new-generation high technology coal-fired power stations,” crowed<\/a> the Council.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Unfortunately, it didn’t provide much more detail on this survey, such as how the questions were posed. The devil is very much in the detail.<\/p>\n

The survey was carried out after a multimedia campaign touting the claimed advantages of new-generation coal-fired power plants, which the Council claims was:<\/p>\n

“a campaign described as clear, educational, relevant and interesting by more than six in ten people surveyed.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

When the Minerals Council posted about the survey on Twitter<\/a>, the response was swift and fairly brutal.<\/p>\n

“BREAKING: 96% of children surveyed want a pet unicorn! HELE is not new, not highly efficient, not low emissions, not cheap, and not going to happen,” tweeted<\/a> Simon Holmes \u00e0 Court.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Mr. Holmes \u00e0 Court is senior advisor to the Energy Transition Hub at Melbourne University and is on the Melbourne Energy Institute’s advisory board.<\/p>\n

The was more colorful language used in some other responses that we won’t re-publish here as they contained words our mothers wouldn’t approve of.<\/p>\n

While the Minerals Council may make the claim of Australians backing HELE, Twitter responses to the HELE survey post at this point suggest close to 100% don’t. Without further details on the survey, the Twitter result has just as much credibility as the Mineral Council’s claims.<\/p>\n

As the name suggests, the Minerals Council of Australia represents Australia\u2019s exploration, mining and minerals processing industry<\/p>\n

If you’d like to learn more about what HELE coal power is and isn’t, this post on RenewEconomy<\/a> by Simon Holmes \u00e0 Court makes an interesting read.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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