{"id":18531,"date":"2018-01-24T15:32:04","date_gmt":"2018-01-24T05:02:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=18531"},"modified":"2018-01-24T17:09:12","modified_gmt":"2018-01-24T06:39:12","slug":"trump-solar-tariffs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/trump-solar-tariffs\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump Solar Tariffs &#8212; Evil, But Not As Evil As They Could Be"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-18663\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trump-evil.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1400\" height=\"1058\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trump-evil.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trump-evil-300x227.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trump-evil-768x580.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trump-evil-1024x774.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The United States <a href=\"https:\/\/ustr.gov\/sites\/default\/files\/files\/Press\/fs\/201%20Cases%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">has announced<\/a> import tariffs of 30% will apply to all imported solar panels but a yearly quota of 2.5 gigawatts of imported solar cells, or enough to make around 9 million panels, is allowed.\u00a0 Just how much the United State&#8217;s Figurehead in Chief, Donald Trump, had to do with this decision I don&#8217;t know, but when you vote in someone who is only good for being blamed you may as well get as much mileage out of that as possible. So they will be forevermore known as the Trump solar tariffs and that&#8217;s definitely what they&#8217;re being called in the news.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>But the reports I&#8217;ve seen don&#8217;t mention that US solar tariffs are not a new thing.\u00a0 It&#8217;s just the previous ones mostly targeted China.\u00a0 The last 3 main rounds of US solar import tariffs have gone like this:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>2012: Screw China<\/li>\n<li>2014: Screw China more and screw Taiwan<\/li>\n<li>2018: Screw the world<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Making the Trump solar tariffs apply to the entire world is a huge change, but still a logical progression since China has been investing in manufacturing capacity in other countries to get around US tariffs.\u00a0 So it&#8217;s a bit of luck for Chinese companies that have built factories in the United States and despite being part of the NAFTA free trade region the new tariffs apparently apply to panels produced in Mexico and Canada<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/trump-solar-tariffs\/#en-18531-1' id='enref-18531-1' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(18531)'>1<\/a><\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>The news reports also generally skip the fact that the Trump tariffs aren&#8217;t as bad as most people in the industry were expecting.\u00a0 While a tariff of 30% that applies to the whole world is, by any reasonable measure, a bloody big tariff, I was surprised by how rapidly they phase out:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_18647\" style=\"width: 1009px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18647\" class=\"size-full wp-image-18647\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trumptariffs.jpg\" alt=\"Rapid Phase Out\" width=\"999\" height=\"162\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trumptariffs.jpg 999w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trumptariffs-300x49.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/trumptariffs-768x125.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 999px) 100vw, 999px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-18647\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Trump Tariffs&#8217; rapid phase out. (Image source: The Goddamned United States Government.)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>But note these are additional to existing duties.\u00a0 They don&#8217;t replace them and then phase out. So Donald Trump is still hurting the solar industry, he&#8217;s just not hurting it as much as expected.\u00a0 He&#8217;s breaking an arm rather than ripping it off and eating it.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s still going to have a nasty effect on the US utility scale solar and residential solar industries.\u00a0 Rooftop solar in the US already suffers from ridiculous amounts of red tape. That is regulation I don&#8217;t expect regulation hating Donald Trump to do anything about anytime soon.<\/p>\n<p>Because the Trump tariff is not as bad as it could have been, we may see a fall in solar panel prices here in Australia in the short term, but overall it will slow the rate at which the cost of solar falls by reducing demand<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/trump-solar-tariffs\/#en-18531-2' id='enref-18531-2' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(18531)'>2<\/a><\/sup>.\u00a0 But for now there will still be plenty of panel manufacturers looking for markets other than the US and so I&#8217;m only expecting downward pressure on prices.<\/p>\n<p>The US says the Trump tariffs are to stop dumping, but when you have to apply anti-dumping tariffs to the entire world, perhaps it is time to consider that just maybe solar panels actually are cheap?\u00a0 If they want to protect the US solar industry it is possible to do that through other means than tariffs without violating World Trade Organization rules.<\/p>\n<h2>A Trumped Up History Of US Solar Import Tariffs<\/h2>\n<p>In 2012 the United States said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Our solar panels are the best.\u00a0 They&#8217;re the greatest.\u00a0 We have all the best solar panels.\u00a0 But China&#8217;s solar panels, they&#8217;re too cheap.\u00a0 They&#8217;re just too cheap.\u00a0 They should be more expensive like ours.\u00a0 China keeps selling cheap solar panels that Americans want to buy and we&#8217;re not going to stand for it anymore!\u00a0 From now on it&#8217;s America first!\u00a0 I&#8217;m going to build a wall of anti-dumping tariffs and I&#8217;m going to make the US solar installation industry pay for it.\u00a0 I&#8217;m putting a tariff of <a href=\"http:\/\/ia.ita.doc.gov\/download\/factsheets\/factsheet-prc-solar-cells-ad-prelim-20120517.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">31% to 250%<\/a> on Chinese solar cells and panels which will come to a total of around 34% to 255%.\u00a0 But Taiwan, you&#8217;re great.\u00a0 We love you.\u00a0 You have all the best solar cells, so no tariff for you.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Maybe America didn&#8217;t actually sound like that back in 2012 but some things are just so awesome they become retroactive.\u00a0 To the rest of the world, Trump speak is now the official voice of America and will remain that way for a very long time.\u00a0 In 2053 when robo-president Lincoln makes its inaugural address thanking the voting machines that put it in power, I&#8217;ll be translating its ones and zeros into Trump speak in my head.<\/p>\n<p>The 2012 solar tariffs did not apply to panels made in China from cells produced in other countries.\u00a0 As a result, Chinese companies invested in solar cell manufacturing capacity in Taiwan.\u00a0 So in 2014 the United States said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Screw you Taiwan!\u00a0 Your solar industry is dead to me!\u00a0 Dead, do you hear?\u00a0 You keep buying American silicon and turning it into solar cells and we&#8217;re not going to stand for it anymore!\u00a0 From now on it&#8217;s America first!\u00a0 We are building a tariff wall of 11% to 28% on your solar cells and tariffs on Chinese solar panels will now be 54% to 128% no matter where their cells came from.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As all panels produced in China now faced import tariffs, Chinese companies started building manufacturing capacity in other countries to avoid them.\u00a0 As a result, countries across Asia started exporting panels to the United States at prices that were too low for them.\u00a0 So this year, a year in which the official voice of America really is Donald Trump&#8217;s, the nation said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Free trade can be wonderful if you have smart people, but we have people that are stupid<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/trump-solar-tariffs\/#en-18531-3' id='enref-18531-3' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(18531)'>3<\/a><\/sup>.\u00a0 I would build a great wall and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/trump-solar-tariffs\/#en-18531-4' id='enref-18531-4' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(18531)'>4<\/a><\/sup>.\u00a0 I&#8217;m going to build an extra tariff wall around the entire world to keep out cheap solar panels.\u00a0 And it&#8217;s going to totally mess with them.\u00a0 They&#8217;ll be so angry.\u00a0 China, Korea, India, they can have all the solar panels they want.\u00a0 They can have a big solar panel cake walk right through the middle of Tiananmen Square and it won&#8217;t make a lick of difference.\u00a0 You know why?\u00a0 Because I&#8217;m going to make America great again!&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2>Has The US Been Dumped On By China?<\/h2>\n<p>The reason why the US applied tariffs to Chinese solar panels has always been because they claim China has been dumping on them.\u00a0 This means they been sold at a lower price overseas than in China.\u00a0 This does appear to have occurred, but it&#8217;s nothing to get too excited about.\u00a0 Trust me, it&#8217;s not at all unusual for costs to get padded in China.\u00a0 If you think things are bad in Australia, they could teach you a thing or two or infinity in Shanghai.\u00a0 But hurting your own solar installation industry because another country is as corrupt as the Devil&#8217;s Parliament is not an intelligent thing to do.<\/p>\n<p>My personal opinion is that whenever someone sells you something you want at a low price the correct response is to say &#8220;thank you&#8221;.\u00a0 And if the thing they are selling helps save lives by reducing global warming then I think the correct response is to give them a fucking medal.<\/p>\n<p>I do think workers should be protected from the effects of dumping, but that can be done while preserving the benefits of having low cost goods supplied by another country.\u00a0 My impression is that anti-dumping tariffs are often more about protecting investors than protecting workers and I think investors should be willing to take their chances.\u00a0 After all, if you can&#8217;t lose it&#8217;s no fun anymore.\u00a0 The current Trump tariffs are protecting investments Chinese solar companies made in North America.<\/p>\n<h2>US Silicon Manufacturers May Have Influenced The Trump Tariffs<\/h2>\n<p>Monosilicon is used in roughly half the world&#8217;s solar panels and the United States makes a lot of it.\u00a0 The US silicon industry is against solar tariffs because the more solar that is installed the better it is for them.\u00a0 It takes a lot of electricity to make monosilicon and electricity is cheap in the US and will stay cheap thanks to renewable energy.\u00a0 So they see themselves making a lot of money in a world where the solar industry is free to expand.\u00a0 I suspect they are why the Trump tariffs are not as bad as they could have been<\/p>\n<h2>Panel Manufacturing Has Changed<\/h2>\n<p>Seven years ago solar panel manufacture was labour intensive and required a large pool of skilled and compliant low wage workers.\u00a0 At the time, this made China almost perfect for solar panel manufacture.\u00a0 But times have changed and now new solar panel manufacturing lines are mostly automated and chock full of robots.\u00a0 Because of the high level of precision required, humans do very little hands on work.\u00a0 This means the United States isn&#8217;t as lousy a location to build solar panels as it was and so new manufacturing capacity there may offset at least a portion of the harm of the Trump tariffs.<\/p>\n<p>Tesla&#8217;s solar panel factory in Buffalo in New York State will be the the largest in the US with one gigawatt of capacity but, as hard as it may be to believe, Tesla is behind schedule on this.<\/p>\n<h2>Will Solar Prices Fall In Australia?<\/h2>\n<p>Because the Trump tariffs weren&#8217;t as bad as many were expecting, solar panel sales to the United States will probably be stronger than expected which may mean slightly higher prices than would otherwise be the case.\u00a0 But there is a huge stockpile of solar panels sitting in America that was built up in expectation of much higher import tariffs.\u00a0 This mountain of modules is now going to be sold off faster than expected, so we may see a temporary dip in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/panels\/cost\/\">solar panel prices<\/a> in Australia.<\/p>\n<h2>Could Definitely Be Better But Could Be Much Worse<\/h2>\n<p>You&#8217;d think what with all the hurricanes smashing into US cities and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-us-canada-42576978\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">arctic winds<\/a> blowing all the way down to Florida, Americans\u00a0 would be more gung-ho about expanding solar generation.\u00a0 But considering the current US President has stated global warming is a Chinese hoax and wants to revitalize coal mining, I think we&#8217;ve been lucky that the Trump tariffs are only short term.\u00a0 The fact they&#8217;re not as bad as they could be actually makes me suspect there are some people in the US government who want to find out what is best for their country and then do it and not just do what they assume is best for their country without checking first.<\/p>\n<p>But I am afraid there is no guarantee Trump won&#8217;t be an arsehole and do something to derail renewable energy just because he can, as when he declared the US was <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/United_States_withdrawal_from_the_Paris_Agreement\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">leaving the Paris Agreement<\/a>.\u00a0 After all, being an arsehole is why 48% of Americans voted him in.<\/p>\n<div class=\"youtube-wrapper\"><iframe title=\"Denis Leary - Asshole (Official Uncensored Version)\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/UrgpZ0fUixs?feature=oembed\" 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