{"id":1864,"date":"2012-08-17T19:53:24","date_gmt":"2012-08-17T10:23:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=1864"},"modified":"2017-01-16T12:11:49","modified_gmt":"2017-01-16T01:41:49","slug":"where-should-your-solar-inverter-go-and-should-you-worry-about-voltage-drops","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/where-should-your-solar-inverter-go-and-should-you-worry-about-voltage-drops\/","title":{"rendered":"Where should your solar inverter go and should you worry about voltage drops?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I got a great email the other day:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;One solar installer has told me that it is best for the inverter to be as close as possible to the panels and NOT to the meter box as your checklist indicates. Is he crazy?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Short answer.<\/strong> Yes &#8211; he&#8217;s crazy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Longer answer:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As close as possible to the panels? Whatcha gonna do put it on the roof?<\/p>\n<p>I get a lot of stick for this advice in one of my <a title=\"Solar Power Videos\" href=\"http:\/\/youtube.com\/solarquotesaustralia\" target=\"_blank\">solar installation videos<\/a>:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1865\" style=\"width: 522px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=U-U2_4Qrmgo&amp;list=PLEBCA3F91F9A9A457&amp;index=2&amp;feature=plpp_video\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1865\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1865\" class=\" wp-image-1865 \" title=\"inverter-position\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/inverter-position.jpg\" alt=\"Solar Inverter Position\" width=\"512\" height=\"311\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1865\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sometimes I get heat for recommending that you put your solar inverter as close to your fusebox as possible.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><!--more-->The argument against this advice is basically that the voltage drop is proportional to the length of the wire and that the voltage drop between the panels and the inverter is (allegedly) more critical than the voltage drop between the inverter and the meter. Therefore you should minimise the \u00a0length of wire from the panels to the inverter at the expense of the length of wire from the inverter to the grid\/meter.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure where this argument comes from. The truth is that\u00a0the voltage drop that will cause the most problems is on the 240V AC side.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to be sure that your solar system will operate reliably, then the\u00a0voltage drop between the inverter and your grid connection needs to be less than 1%.<\/p>\n<p>Why? Here I&#8217;ll quote from a Grid Connect PV manual by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gses.com.au\/\">GSES<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cAlthough not mentioned in AS\/NZS 5033:2012, AC voltage drop\/rise [i.e. between the inverter and the switchboard] should be kept as low as possible. The purpose of this is to keep the voltage rise to a minimum &#8211; this is to prevent voltage rise in the local grid. High levels of voltage in sections of the grid may lead to overvoltage tripping in grid connected inverters. The allowable voltage rise depends upon the local state rules that are in effect. However, under the CEC Guidelines which were effective as of the 1st of February, 2013, the new recommended AC voltage drop\/rise from the inverter to the point of connection is 1%.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course the best way to minimise voltage drops in your solar system &#8211; which will maximise your power output and maximise the return on investment &#8211; is to use cables that are as short and as thick as practicably possible. The thicker the cable, the lower the voltage drop across the cable. So if you absolutely need a long run of cable &#8211; you can usually compensate with thicker wire.<\/p>\n<p>Typical wire thickness (measured in cross sectional area &#8211; millimetres squared)\u00a0for the DC cables that run from the panels to the inverter is 1.5mm\u00b2, 2.5mm\u00b2, 4mm\u00b2, and 6mm\u00b2. If you want to minimise losses insist on at least 4mm\u00b2. Believe me some of the large and super cheap solar installation companies want to save every last cent on every install and will try to get away with the 1.5mm\u00b2 wire!<\/p>\n<p>As for the AC cable, i.e. from the inverter to the meter, don&#8217;t go smaller than 6mm\u00b2. And if you have to place your inverter more than a few metres from the meter then go \u00a0thick enough to keep the losses in that wire less than 1%.<\/p>\n<p>My advice is to stipulate to your installer (in writing) that the losses in the wires (voltage drops) should be less that 2% overall for the system as a whole. 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