{"id":22269,"date":"2018-06-15T06:22:54","date_gmt":"2018-06-14T19:52:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=22269"},"modified":"2018-10-22T09:16:29","modified_gmt":"2018-10-21T22:46:29","slug":"solar-batteries-discussion-mb0628","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/solar-batteries-discussion-mb0628\/","title":{"rendered":"Solar Batteries &#8211; Silver Bullets Or Expensive Toys? Video And Summary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-22271\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/solar-batteries-discussion.jpg\" alt=\"Solar batteries discussion\" width=\"700\" height=\"432\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/solar-batteries-discussion.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/solar-batteries-discussion-300x185.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>A panel of Australian solar industry veterans yesterday discussed the current state of play with regard to home battery storage in Australia.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The discussion was part of the launch event for SolarQuotes founder Finn Peacock&#8217;s new book &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/good-solar-guide\/\">The Good Solar Guide<\/a>: 7 Steps To Tiny Bills For Australian Homeowners, which also includes information on solar battery systems.<\/p>\n<p>Participating in the panel were:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Jenny Paradiso &#8211; co-<span class=\"st\">founder and managing director of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installer-review\/suntrix\/\">Suntrix<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"st\">Adrian Ferraretto<\/span><span class=\"st\"> &#8211; previous owner of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installer-review\/solar-shop\/\">SolarShop<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/panels\/tindo-solar-review.html\">Tindo Solar<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"st\">Richard Turner &#8211; founder of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installer-review\/zen-energy\/\">Zen Energy<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"st\">Finn Peacock &#8211; founder and head honcho of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\">SolarQuotes<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Here&#8217;s how the discussion unfolded (if you don&#8217;t wish to watch the video, a summary of the major points is below)<\/p>\n<div class=\"youtube-wrapper\"><iframe title=\"Solar Batteries - Silver Bullets Or Expensive Toys?\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JPuGE5QOwwU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<h2>Solar Only Or Solar + Storage?<\/h2>\n<p>The discussion kicked off with the question, &#8220;should a homeowner wanting to save money buy solar or solar + battery&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Finn Peacock was of the opinion that given solar-only payback can be as little as three years and solar + battery as much as twelve, its wiser to go for solar only and opt for a larger system until such time that battery systems have dropped further in price.<\/p>\n<p>Richard Turner said solar-only was a &#8220;no-brainer&#8221; and said installing a battery system at the moment would result in a much longer payback period, particularly if finance is involved.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"st\">Adrian Ferraretto<\/span> also backed the solar-only approach at this stage and said there was little sense in spending up to $14,000 on a battery system to store $3 worth of electricity.<\/p>\n<p>Jenny Paradiso said Suntrix talks more people out of batteries than into them &#8211; and for the latter group, these are people who aren&#8217;t concerned with return on investment, but are more interested in blackout protection or &#8220;sticking it to the man&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The general view was it&#8217;s still a couple of\/few years before batteries reach the tipping point of mass adoption. Adrian <span class=\"st\"> Ferraretto commented that batteries are currently an emotional product rather than a financial or environmental product.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2>SA Government Battery Scheme<\/h2>\n<p>The next question was, &#8220;is the SA Government&#8217;s $100 million scheme to give 40,000 households a $2,500 battery rebate a good idea?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Finn Peacock believes it&#8217;s not a good idea as he isn&#8217;t sure if it will be popular. The scheme will be means tested and if the rebates are targeted towards low-income households, he couldn&#8217;t see many people being in a position to splash out the cash required to cover the unsubsidised portion of a battery system.<\/p>\n<p>Jenny Paradiso likes the idea, but said it was important for the Government to get the details right; including how the initiative would fit in with other Virtual Power Plant projects proposed or under way in South Australia.<\/p>\n<p>Adrian <span class=\"st\"> Ferraretto stated while it&#8217;s good to have incentives, he believed rebates are value-distorting and tend to encourage the purchase of cheap and nasty products. He feels a better idea would be to reward battery owners with something along the lines of special feed in tariffs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Richard Turner said it was a good incentive for early adopters who can afford the difference, but if it&#8217;s going to be means tested and favour low-income households, such a scheme needs to be paired up with appropriate finance and quality control mechanisms.<\/p>\n<h2>Priorities &#8211; Residential Or Utility Scale Solar?<\/h2>\n<p>The next question was &#8220;should our priority be residential or utility scale batteries?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Jenny Paradiso said both are needed as the combination of the two will give the best result.<\/p>\n<p>Finn Peacock felt given public funds are limited, priority should go to utility scale at this stage as this would be more useful in the bigger energy picture for applications such as grid stability services. However, he sees value in offering incentives when the cost of residential batteries decreases.<\/p>\n<p>Adrian <span class=\"st\"> Ferraretto didn&#8217;t like the <\/span>&#8220;winner take all&#8221; result from utility scale battery support and would rather see residential storage rebates, which would help small businesses servicing the home solar market flourish and expand, with the money staying here.<\/p>\n<h2>Solar Batteries And Energy Efficiency<\/h2>\n<p>The final question was &#8220;will solar batteries kill old fashioned energy efficiency?<\/p>\n<p>Finn Peacock says he&#8217;s already seeing it in solar, where people are opting for larger systems instead of improving energy efficiency within their homes.<\/p>\n<p>Jenny Paradiso stated she has seen the same trend and incidences of solar owners being puzzled by their electricity bills, not realising they were using more electricity &#8211;\u00a0 so education was important. However, the advent of new models such as peer to peer trading may get people thinking more about energy efficiency.<\/p>\n<p>Adrian <span class=\"st\"> Ferraretto <\/span> was of the opinion that with solar now so cheap, saving energy is less important &#8211; and households will be looking to install even more solar panels as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/ev\/solar-electric-cars\/\">electric cars<\/a> come into play.<\/p>\n<p>Richard Turner looked at it from a utility scale perspective, stating demand management will still be important.<\/p>\n<p>After the set questions, a couple of questions were taken from the audience in relation to battery ready systems and the issue of adding more panels\/a battery to systems on higher legacy feed in tariffs.<\/p>\n<p>The launch event was held at the Art Gallery of South Australia, a fitting venue given the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/art-gallery-battery-system-mb0247\/\">Gallery has a battery system<\/a> that was installed by Zen Energy last year. The demonstration system was designed to help manage the gallery\u2019s demand profile. Richard Turner said the system was performing well and while originally it was forecast to have a 6 year payback, it looks like it will be 4 &#8211; but he stressed that system works differently to a conventional <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/battery-storage\/comparison-table\/\">home solar battery system<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/good-solar-guide\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-22270\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/good-solar-guide-launch.jpg\" alt=\"The Good Solar Guide\" width=\"700\" height=\"406\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/good-solar-guide-launch.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/good-solar-guide-launch-300x174.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Attended by close to 100 people including solar installers, owners, trade body and manufacturing representatives, the event was formally opened by South Australia&#8217;s Minister for Environment and Water, David Speirs.<\/p>\n<p>The Good Solar Guide is now available in paperback or for the Kindle &#8211; learn more about the book, purchase the guide or download a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/good-solar-guide\/\">free chapter here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A panel of Australian solar industry veterans yesterday discussed the current state of play with regard to home battery storage in Australia.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":17,"featured_media":22271,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[678],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22269","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-solar-battery-news","entry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.2 (Yoast SEO v27.2) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Solar Batteries - Silver Bullets Or Expensive Toys? 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