{"id":27352,"date":"2019-01-25T11:14:05","date_gmt":"2019-01-25T00:44:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=27352"},"modified":"2024-05-15T14:22:04","modified_gmt":"2024-05-15T04:52:04","slug":"labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis\/","title":{"rendered":"Labor&#8217;s Hydrogen Plan Is A Lead Zeppelin"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_27419\" style=\"width: 1210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-27419\" class=\"wp-image-27419 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/hydrogen-zeppelin.jpg\" alt=\"Labor hydrogen plan\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/hydrogen-zeppelin.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/hydrogen-zeppelin-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/hydrogen-zeppelin-768x402.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/hydrogen-zeppelin-1024x536.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-27419\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Why Australia Is Unlikely To Ever Export Large Quantities Of Hydrogen<\/p><\/div>\n<p>As Michael <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-mb0910\/\">reported this week<\/a>, Labor has announced in a <a href=\"https:\/\/alp.org.au\/media\/1520\/190121-factsheet-hydrogen-plan.pdf?_ga=2.262141326.2018433885.1546686977-1202636976.1499220483\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">media release<\/a> that, if elected, they will spend $3 million building a &#8220;National Hydrogen Innovation Hub&#8221; in Gladstone and make over $1 billion available in loans for to develop hydrogen production.\u00a0 Labor also say they will remove regulatory barriers and make research into hydrogen production, storage, and transport a priority .<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I think this is a pity because the projections for massive hydrogen exports Labor mentions here:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-27372 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/exports.gif\" alt=\"hydrogen export projections\" width=\"1083\" height=\"107\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Are never going to happen.<\/p>\n<h2>A Billion Dollar Announcement With $3 Million In Funding<\/h2>\n<p>Before I explain why I think &#8212; in my not at all humble opinion &#8212;\u00a0 that Australia is never likely to export large amounts of hydrogen, I&#8217;d first like to point out that despite Labor boasting:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-27370 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/billion.gif\" alt=\"Labor hydrogen investment\" width=\"769\" height=\"40\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The actual amount of taxpayer&#8217;s money they are throwing out there is only $3 million to be spent in Gladstone.\u00a0 The rest consists of over $1 billion in financing and promises to change research priorities and improve regulations.\u00a0 The loans shouldn&#8217;t lose the government money as they will only be made if they&#8217;re sure they&#8217;ll get it back plus interest.\u00a0 But they have the drawback that it&#8217;s over $1 billion that won&#8217;t be financing other things that could be more valuable to Australia.\u00a0 I find Labor&#8217;s promise to make hydrogen research a priority disturbing because there is no mention of additional funding.\u00a0 This means any new focus on hydrogen research will come at the cost of less research elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>Because the $3 million Labor will actually provide is such a tiny amount compared to the billion dollar announcement, it makes me wonder if this is just all part of a con to make Japan think we&#8217;re all on board the hydrogen train together to dupe them into investing hydrogen development money in Australia.\u00a0 The problem with this is, conning your friends<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis\/#en-27352-1' id='enref-27352-1' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(27352)'>1<\/a><\/sup> is not nice.\u00a0 Also, I have no confidence our leaders are capable of remembering the most important part of a con job &#8212; don&#8217;t be the sucker.<\/p>\n<h2>Hydrogen Gas Is Not Laughing Gas<\/h2>\n<p>Labor included the following text in their press release:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-27377 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/seriously.gif\" alt=\"Hydrogen Olympics\" width=\"1064\" height=\"104\" \/><\/p>\n<p>So some countries&#8217; politicians said they are transitioning to hydrogen and Labor believed them?\u00a0 You&#8217;d think a politician would be the last person to trust another politician, wouldn&#8217;t you?\u00a0 If we look at it the other way around we should assume Japan and South Korea believe what our government says and thinks we&#8217;re going to build a dozen new coal power stations.<\/p>\n<p>I am being facetious here.\u00a0 To be fair, Japan and South Korea have both ponied up piles of money for hydrogen.\u00a0 South Korea is spending <a href=\"https:\/\/www.greencarcongress.com\/2018\/06\/20180625-korea.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">$3.2 billion<\/a> over 5 years on hydrogen car infrastructure and Japan spends around $2 billion a year on hydrogen research.\u00a0 But to put that in perspective, Japan currently spends about $16 billion a year on nuclear power research.\u00a0 This is despite the fact they had literal <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">hydrogen explosions occurring inside nuclear reactor buildings<\/a> in 2011.<\/p>\n<p>I presume their motivation is they want to move away from oil but think they need a substitute and have latched onto hydrogen.\u00a0 Their splashing of cash will help hydrogen vehicle sales, but I think they will be dwarfed by sales of battery electric vehicles.\u00a0 Once <a href=\"https:\/\/autoweek.com\/article\/green-cars\/toyotas-bet-hydrogen-paying\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Toyota<\/a> starts producing <a href=\"https:\/\/asia.nikkei.com\/Business\/Business-Deals\/Toyota-charges-into-electric-car-race-with-Panasonic-tie-up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">electric cars in large numbers<\/a> for sale in Japan it will probably be game over for hydrogen cars there.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis\/#en-27352-2' id='enref-27352-2' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(27352)'>2<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<h2>3 Reasons Why Hydrogen Demand Won&#8217;t Be Huge<\/h2>\n<p>Hydrogen may become an important fuel for aviation and shipping.\u00a0 It&#8217;s also used in many industrial processes.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis\/#en-27352-3' id='enref-27352-3' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(27352)'>3<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0 So there definitely could be a demand for hydrogen produced from renewable energy and not natural gas which is used for 96% of the world&#8217;s current hydrogen production.\u00a0 But I&#8217;m certain predictions for a massive demand for hydrogen imports from Australia are not going to pan out because:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Hydrogen won&#8217;t dominate road transport because <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/electric-cars\/\">battery electric vehicles<\/a> have it beat on both cost and energy efficiency.<\/li>\n<li>Energy losses from the production, liquefaction, transport, and electricity generation on top of other costs are likely to make it too expensive for any country to generate a large part of its electricity from imported hydrogen.<\/li>\n<li>Rather than importing hydrogen it could be cheaper to use natural gas and then pay to have the CO2 that is released removed from the atmosphere and sequestered.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h2>Battery Electric Vehicles Outclass Hydrogen Vehicles<\/h2>\n<p>A modern hydrogen car is an electric vehicle but instead of batteries it is powered by a fuel cell that is fed hydrogen from a tank.\u00a0 The main disadvantages of hydrogen electric cars over battery ones are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>They are more expensive to buy.\u00a0 A Honda Clarity Fuel Cell costs around $85,000 and a Nissan Leaf around $42,000.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis\/#en-27352-4' id='enref-27352-4' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(27352)'>4<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\n<li>They cost more to fuel.<\/li>\n<li>The limited power of the fuel cells means their performance is generally worse.<\/li>\n<li>It is much more expensive to build a hydrogen fueling network than a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/ev-chargers\/public\/\">battery vehicle charging network<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>A full tank of liquid hydrogen in a passenger car can boil away by itself in under 2 weeks.\u00a0 <em><strong>Update 10:19pm:\u00a0 <\/strong>But most hydrogen fuel cell cars use tanks of hydrogen gas compressed at up to 680 atmospheres.\u00a0 Leakage from these is trivial.\u00a0 \u00a0 <\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Where hydrogen fuel cells vehicles have an edge is with range.\u00a0 A 2017 Honda Clarity Fuel Cell has a range of 589 km on a full tank of liquid hydrogen.\u00a0 This is more than twice the 240 km range of the 2018 Nissan Leaf when new.\u00a0 But if you can afford a Tesla S sports car with a large battery pack it can have a range of 539 km which is only 8-9% less.\u00a0 While greater range will appeal to some drivers it&#8217;s not strictly necessary in crowded countries such as Japan and South Korea.\u00a0 Tesla has successfully demonstrated the effectiveness of a large-scale supercharging network.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s what theirs looks like in North America:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_27383\" style=\"width: 635px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-27383\" class=\"wp-image-27383 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/chargers.gif\" alt=\"Tesla electric vehicle charging network\" width=\"625\" height=\"428\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-27383\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Red dots are superchargers. Grey dots are not quite so super destination chargers. (Image: Tesla)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>At the moment there should be over 3.5 million battery electric cars in the world.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis\/#en-27352-5' id='enref-27352-5' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(27352)'>5<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/insideevs.com\/there-is-only-6500-hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars-in-the-world-half-in-california-report\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">This article<\/a> says at the start of last year there were 6,475 hydrogen cars in the world.\u00a0 Even assuming that number has increased by a quarter over the last year battery electric vehicles outnumber them by over 400 to 1.<\/p>\n<p>With battery prices continuing to fall I don&#8217;t see any realistic prospect of hydrogen cars beating battery electrics on purchase price and it&#8217;s probably unavoidable that they&#8217;ll be more expensive to fuel.<\/p>\n<h2>Hydrogen Energy Efficiency Is Poor<\/h2>\n<p>A battery electric car can supply around 85% of the energy that is used to charge it to its motor.\u00a0 But even under very favorable circumstances, imported hydrogen produced from renewable electricity goes through the following energy losing steps:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Electricity is used to generate hydrogen at 80% efficiency<\/li>\n<li>It&#8217;s liquefied at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hydrogen.energy.gov\/pdfs\/review11\/pd018_schwartz_2011_p.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">87% efficiency<\/a><\/li>\n<li>It&#8217;s transported with 99% efficiency<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis\/#en-27352-6' id='enref-27352-6' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(27352)'>6<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\n<li>10% loss from leaks and hydrogen boiling off<\/li>\n<li>Fuel cell efficiency 50%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This gives a total efficiency of 31% from the source that&#8217;s used to generate the hydrogen to the car&#8217;s motor. In practice it could be considerably worse.\u00a0 This means a hydrogen car requires roughly 3 times as much energy per kilometer as a battery electric car.<\/p>\n<h2>Electricity From Hydrogen Is Expensive<\/h2>\n<p>If liquid hydrogen is transported in bulk to a power station in Japan, losses from leaks and boiling off will probably be minor and can be\u00a0 ignored.\u00a0 (Although cigarette smokers at the power station probably shouldn&#8217;t ignore the possibility of leaks.)\u00a0 If the hydrogen is used to generate electricity with 50% efficiency then it will only produce one-third of the electrical energy expended\u00a0to make the hydrogen it in Australia.\u00a0 This makes it a very inefficient intermediary for moving electrical energy from Australia to Japan.\u00a0 It also contributes to its expense.\u00a0 Japan estimates the cost of an imported kilogram of hydrogen will be $4.20 in 2030 which makes the fuel cost of electricity generated from it around 21 cents per kilowatt-hour.<\/p>\n<p>Currently Germany predicts they will be able to produce solar electricity for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pv-magazine.com\/2018\/03\/20\/pv-has-the-lowest-lcoe-in-germany-finds-fraunhofer-ise\/?_ga=2.26622142.2018433885.1546686977-1202636976.1499220483\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">under 4 cents per kilowatt-hour by 2030<\/a>.\u00a0 Japan is sunnier than Germany so they should consider using solar plus a low cost form of storage such as pumped hydro before looking at hydrogen.<\/p>\n<h2>Natural Gas Plus Sequestering CO2 May Be Cheaper<\/h2>\n<p>Natural gas in Japan at the moment is roughly $11 a gigajoule.\u00a0 This means with 50% efficiency it costs around 8 cents to generate 1 kilowatt-hour of electricity.\u00a0 In Australia we should be able to remove CO2 from the atmosphere and sequester it for less than $100 per tonne.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/labor-hydrogen-plan-analysis\/#en-27352-7' id='enref-27352-7' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(27352)'>7<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0 To be on the safe side I&#8217;ll assume it will be spot on $100 per tonne.\u00a0 This means to remove the CO2 released from generating one kilowatt-hour with natural gas at 50% efficiency would cost 4 cents.\u00a0 This would make the total cost 12 cents per kilowatt-hour.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not saying this is a good idea.\u00a0 I think renewable energy plus some form of energy storage will be even cheaper.\u00a0 But if burning natural gas and then sequestering the CO2 released is under 60% of the estimated cost of generating electricity from hydrogen, it makes hydrogen look like a very bad deal.<\/p>\n<h2>Competition Means Hydrogen Won&#8217;t Be Exceptionally Profitable<\/h2>\n<p>If it turns out I am wrong (this may have happened once or twice before) and there is a strong future demand for imported hydrogen in Japan and other countries, this does not mean exporting hydrogen will be highly profitable for Australia.\u00a0 Other countries that are made out of sand and sunshine and not much else will be competing with us by using solar energy to produce hydrogen for export.\u00a0 As Australia has no special advantage over them there will be no extraordinary profits for us to make.\u00a0 There will only be ordinary profits.\u00a0 So we shouldn&#8217;t go shoveling money into developing a hydrogen export industry now when there is no reason to expect the return will be impressive.<\/p>\n<p>Of course this doesn&#8217;t mean we shouldn&#8217;t play up our particular strengths when it comes to sales.\u00a0 &#8220;You don&#8217;t want to buy hydrogen from unstable nations!\u00a0 You want to ensure your supply by getting it from a stable, democratic country!\u00a0 We&#8217;re so democratic that, at the current rate, by 2031 everyone in Australia will have been Prime Minister at least once.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As Michael reported this week, Labor has announced in a media 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