{"id":31664,"date":"2019-07-17T11:45:30","date_gmt":"2019-07-17T01:15:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=31664"},"modified":"2024-07-05T13:27:10","modified_gmt":"2024-07-05T03:57:10","slug":"charging-ev-battery-grid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/charging-ev-battery-grid\/","title":{"rendered":"Charging Your EV From The Grid Is Cheaper &#038; Greener Than Charging From A Home Battery"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_32070\" style=\"width: 1210px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-32070\" class=\"wp-image-32070 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/battery-car.jpg\" alt=\"Charging electric car from a solar battery\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/battery-car.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/battery-car-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/battery-car-768x402.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/battery-car-1024x536.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-32070\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Solar &amp; EV owners: don&#8217;t stress about charging your car directly from the grid when the sun isn&#8217;t shining.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The first thing I&#8217;ll do in this article is point out it&#8217;s difficult to fit caveats into a headline.\u00a0 The second thing I&#8217;ll do now I&#8217;m writing the article and have the space to explain is state there are exceptions to the two main points I am about to make, which are:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>It doesn&#8217;t make economic sense to charge an electric car with a home battery.<\/li>\n<li>Charging an electric car with a grid-connected solar-battery is worse for the environment than simply charging it from the grid.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I will cover some exceptions later in the article, but not now.\u00a0 Maybe in paragraph 46.\u00a0 The first thing I am going to do is lay down some ground rules on technology and how far into the future I&#8217;m going.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-31939\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/delorean.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"271\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>The Next 5 Years<\/h2>\n<p>I&#8217;m only looking at the relatively near future, which means I&#8217;m going to assume home batteries and electric cars will work much the way they do now without any radical changes in technology.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll also assume Australia&#8217;s electricity generation will only be around <a href=\"https:\/\/reneweconomy.com.au\/australia-to-reach-50-renewables-by-2030-despite-coalition-scare-campaign-40549\/\">50% renewable by 2030<\/a>.\u00a0 I&#8217;m hoping it will be <a href=\"https:\/\/reneweconomy.com.au\/forget-50-australia-on-track-to-reach-78-renewables-grid-by-2030\/\">considerably higher<\/a>, but as I&#8217;ve had three failed marriages I have to consider the possibility my optimism levels are slightly above average.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m confident my two statements made above will hold true for the next 5 years, but after that it&#8217;s possible they will no longer apply.\u00a0 So <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=3Xb2aYmzVo8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">in the year 2025<\/a>, if man is still alive, if woman can survive, they may find&#8230; the situation has changed and it makes sense to charge an electric car with a home battery.\u00a0 But I doubt it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"youtube-wrapper\"><iframe title=\"In the Year 252525 - Futurama Parody\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/u76Lxn9jrNo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<h2>Stored Solar Energy Isn&#8217;t &#8220;Free&#8221;<\/h2>\n<p>I&#8217;m afraid there are some people who are living in a dream world.<\/p>\n<div class=\"youtube-wrapper\"><iframe title=\"Simpsons World of Make Believe\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/W0Y1KAHVWhU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>They are under the impression it is cost-effective to charge an electric car in the evening with a home battery that&#8217;s been charged with solar power during the day.<\/p>\n<p>I wish I could join them in this dream world, but I&#8217;m afraid I cannot.\u00a0 This is because, sooner or later, I know that giant carrot in a top hat will show up and start chasing me again.\u00a0 (He&#8217;s the reason I sometimes write these articles at 3:00 a.m. in the morning.)<\/p>\n<p>But another problem &#8212; one that doesn&#8217;t involve a giant, snappily dressed carrot with muscular legs &#8212; is this costs more than simply charging the car from the grid throughout Australia.\u00a0 This is because:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Whenever energy from rooftop solar panels is used to charge a car, either directly or from a home battery, the household loses out on the solar feed-in tariff they would have received if the electricity had instead been fed directly into the grid.<\/li>\n<li>There are always losses when charging and discharging batteries.\u00a0 Using a home battery to charge an electric car&#8217;s battery pack will, more or less, double the losses.<\/li>\n<li>Battery systems cost a lot of money and this needs to be accounted for.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>In addition to these points there are retail electricity plans available now that can &#8212; at least potentially &#8212; lower the cost of charging an electric car.\u00a0 These are likely to become more common in the future.<\/p>\n<h2>Foregone Solar Feed-In Tariff<\/h2>\n<p>It may seem obvious <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/ev\/solar-electric-cars\/\">solar electricity used to charge a car<\/a> can&#8217;t also receive a solar feed-in tariff.\u00a0 It&#8217;s like what my father told me when I wanted to marry two women, &#8220;You can&#8217;t have your Kate and Edith as well.&#8221;\u00a0 But people who don&#8217;t know the ins and outs of solar power and energy storage can&#8217;t be blamed for not knowing this.\u00a0 There are battery salespeople who deliberately ignore it in their spiels about battery savings and then there are those who don&#8217;t even understand it&#8217;s necessary.\u00a0 This means they&#8217;re advising people without knowing the very basics of how battery payback works.\u00a0 That&#8217;s pretty scary.<\/p>\n<p>No, wait.\u00a0 Not scary&#8230; shitty.\u00a0 Shitty is the word I was looking for.<\/p>\n<p>The amount of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/systems\/feed-in-tariffs\/\">solar feed-in tariff<\/a> you get depends on your location and electricity plan.\u00a0 In Perth it&#8217;s fixed at only 7.1 cents per kilowatt-hour.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/charging-ev-battery-grid\/#en-31664-1' id='enref-31664-1' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(31664)'>1<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0 In Sydney Origin Energy is currently offering a plan with a 21 cent feed-in tariff.\u00a0 This is more than what they now offer in South Australia.<\/p>\n<p>The lower your feed-in tariff the less it will cost to charge a battery with solar, but the cost will be increased by&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Battery Losses<\/h2>\n<p>I recently <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/6th-canberra-battery-test\/\">looked at a report<\/a> from the Canberra Battery Test Centre and estimated, on average, home batteries only provide around 84% of the energy put into them.\u00a0 If I bump that figure up to 85%, around 1.2 kilowatt-hours will still need to be put into a battery to get 1 kilowatt-hour out.\u00a0 This means if you have a 7.1 cent feed-in tariff in Western Australia to use one kilowatt-hour of stored electricity will require 8.6 cents of solar electricity, while with a 16 cent feed-in tariff 19.2 cents worth will be needed.<\/p>\n<p>There are also losses when charging an EV&#8217;s battery, but if you are going to use an electric car these are pretty much unavoidable, so I&#8217;ll ignore them.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/charging-ev-battery-grid\/#en-31664-2' id='enref-31664-2' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(31664)'>2<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>The graph below shows:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00a0The standard tariff<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/charging-ev-battery-grid\/#en-31664-3' id='enref-31664-3' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(31664)'>3<\/a><\/sup> in each capital.<\/li>\n<li>The solar feed-in tariff.\u00a0 In capitals with retailer choice I simply used the Origin Energy plan with the highest feed-in tariff offered to normal households.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/charging-ev-battery-grid\/#en-31664-4' id='enref-31664-4' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(31664)'>4<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0 For Perth and Darwin I used their fixed feed-in tariffs, while for Hobart I used First Energy&#8217;s, which was the best of the two available.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/charging-ev-battery-grid\/#en-31664-5' id='enref-31664-5' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(31664)'>5<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0 This is also how I obtained the figures for the standard tariff.<\/li>\n<li>The amount of solar feed-in tariff foregone to for each kilowatt-hour of stored energy used.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-32048 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/graph1.jpg\" alt=\"Solar feed-in and electricity tariffs\" width=\"1099\" height=\"619\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/graph1.jpg 1099w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/graph1-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/graph1-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/graph1-1024x577.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1099px) 100vw, 1099px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Battery System Cost<\/h2>\n<p>Like most things in life, the more a battery is used the more wear and tear it suffers.\u00a0 (One of these days my sarcasm is going to be completely worn out.)\u00a0 There is only a limited amount of energy a battery system can provide during its lifetime, so its cost per stored kilowatt-hour provided needs to be accounted for.\u00a0 If we consider a Tesla Powerwall 2 &#8212; the most famous of home battery systems &#8212; and use the following assumptions:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Its total installed cost is $16,000<\/li>\n<li>It provides an average of 10 kilowatt-hours of stored energy per day.\u00a0 This is an optimistic figure for any home that&#8217;s remotely close normal.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/charging-ev-battery-grid\/#en-31664-6' id='enref-31664-6' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(31664)'>6<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\n<li>It lasts for 13 years and provides a total of 47,500 kilowatt-hours<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/charging-ev-battery-grid\/#en-31664-7' id='enref-31664-7' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(31664)'>7<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This results in the cost of the battery system per kilowatt-hour of stored energy being 33.7 cents.\u00a0 As that&#8217;s more than most Australians pay for grid electricity it&#8217;s clearly not going to pay for itself.\u00a0 Including the cost of foregone solar feed-in tariff just makes it worse.<\/p>\n<p>To be thorough this figure should also include the cost of capital, but I&#8217;m not going to worry about it.\u00a0 Just keep it in the back of your mind the real cost will be a little worse.<\/p>\n<p>It is possible the cost of batteries will soon come down or maybe it&#8217;s possible to just get a really good deal now, so I&#8217;m going to assume the cost of a battery is only going to come to 30 cents per kilowatt-hour in most of Australia and only 17.4 cents in South Australia due to that state&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/sa-battery-subsidy-update\/\">hefty battery subsidy<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Total Cost Of Home Battery For EV Charging<\/h2>\n<p>If we take the cost of the battery system per kilowatt-hour and add the cost of the foregone feed-in tariff and compare it to the cost of a standard tariff in each capital we get the following:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-32052 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/standard-tariff-vs-storage.jpg\" alt=\"Standard electricity tariffs and cost of energy storage\" width=\"898\" height=\"539\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/standard-tariff-vs-storage.jpg 898w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/standard-tariff-vs-storage-300x180.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/standard-tariff-vs-storage-768x461.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 898px) 100vw, 898px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>As you can see, even using an optimistic example, it costs more to charge a car with solar power from a battery than to simply use grid power on a standard tariff in every capital.\u00a0 The only place it comes close to paying for itself is Adelaide and that&#8217;s only thanks to the substantial battery subsidy available there.<\/p>\n<p>Darwin is the worst capital for charging an electric car from a home battery thanks to having the nation&#8217;s highest feed-in tariff, while Canberra is the second worse thanks to having Australia&#8217;s lowest electricity prices.<\/p>\n<p>While things already look awful, a standard tariff is not the only way to pay for grid electricity to charge a car and other options can make the comparison considerably worse.<\/p>\n<h2>Low Cost Grid Charging<\/h2>\n<p>Depending on your location there are a number of ways already available to charge a car with grid electricity at a lower cost than a standard tariff.\u00a0 These include:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Charging with off peak power on a time-of-use tariff.\u00a0 Solar homes are usually better off with a standard tariff, but if you are charging an electric car at night it may make one worthwhile.<\/li>\n<li>Make your EV charger a controlled load.\u00a0 This will provide lower cost electricity but you will only be able to use your charger for a limited amount of time per day.<\/li>\n<li>Use an electricity plan where you are pay wholesale prices for grid electricity.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/amber-electric-review\/\">Amber Electric<\/a> is an example.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Other methods of charging an electric car at reduced cost are likely to become available in the future.\u00a0 If an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/ev-chargers\/\">EV charger is smart enough<\/a> it will enable charging when electricity prices are low, zero, or even negative &#8212; meaning at times the household will be paid for charging their battery and potentially for consuming electricity in the home.\u00a0 This graph from Thursday last week shows several periods of negative electricity prices in South Australia on a windy day:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-32034 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/30-minute-settlement.jpg\" alt=\"Electricity price and demand - spot price\" width=\"768\" height=\"395\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/30-minute-settlement.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/30-minute-settlement-300x154.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Prices fell to negative 50 cents per kilowatt-hour.\u00a0 Being able to take advantage of events like this is clearly useful and in two years time it will become possible to pay for electricity in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aemo.com.au\/-\/media\/Files\/Electricity\/NEM\/5MS\/Program-Information\/2018\/5MS-factsheet.pdf\">5 minute blocks<\/a> rather than having the price averaged over 30 minutes.\u00a0 This graph shows 5 minute prices on that day:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-32035 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/5-minute-settlement.jpg\" alt=\"Electricity price and demand - dispatch price\" width=\"766\" height=\"395\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/5-minute-settlement.jpg 766w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/5-minute-settlement-300x155.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 766px) 100vw, 766px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There were many, brief, 5 minute periods when the wholesale price of electricity dropped down to negative $1 per kilowatt-hour.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/ev-chargers\/\">EV chargers<\/a> and home batteries that can make use of these 5 minute settlement periods will have a considerable advantage.\u00a0 On the other hand, the more storage capacity there is the less often electricity prices will go negative.\u00a0 We are still in the early days of allowing households to take advantage of swings in wholesale electricity prices and it remains to be seen how much they will help home batteries pay for themselves.<\/p>\n<h2>Home Batteries Are Bad For The Environment<\/h2>\n<p>You may not care how much it costs to charge an electric car with a home battery and just want to do it to help the environment.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a great attitude, but not a great idea.\u00a0 This is because using a home battery is bad for the environment as it increases emissions.<\/p>\n<p>As I <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/does-battery-storage-help-or-hurt-the-environment\/\">explain here<\/a>, each kilowatt-hour of solar electricity sent into the grid for a feed-in tariff will reduce fossil fuel generation by around one kilowatt-hour.\u00a0 But because of charging and discharging losses a kilowatt-hour of solar electricity stored in a battery will only reduce fossil fuel generation by around 0.85 kilowatt-hours.\u00a0 This makes it better for the environment to send surplus solar electricity into the grid than storing it in a battery.\u00a0 As renewable generation increases and coal power stations are shut down this should change, but unfortunately it&#8217;s likely to take Australia more than 5 years to get to that point.<\/p>\n<h2>Paragraph 46 &#8212; Some Exceptions, Caveats, &amp; Provisos<\/h2>\n<p>In this section I&#8217;ll cover some situations where my contention that charging an electric car with a battery doesn&#8217;t make economic or environmental sense may not apply.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>First, just to be clear, I&#8217;ll state that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/electric-vehicles\/\">driving an electric car<\/a> will result in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/electric-cars-environment-kelly\/\">less greenhouse gas emissions<\/a> than driving a comparable standard internal combustion engine car.\u00a0 At the moment a hybrid can easily beat an electric car on emissions, but with enough renewable generation electric cars will beat hybrids.<\/li>\n<li>If your home or business is export limited and your battery is storing clean solar energy that otherwise would go to waste then the battery can be an environmental plus and reduce emissions.\u00a0 This also improves its economics.<\/li>\n<li>Virtual Power Plants have the potential greatly improve the economics of home storage, but it remains to be seen how much benefit they will provide households and how long they will take to become an easily available option.\u00a0 They are unlikely to make charging an EV with a home battery pay for itself soon.<\/li>\n<li>The current low cost of battery cells compared to what they were just a few years ago indicates home battery storage has the potential to fall a long way in cost.\u00a0 If prices fall faster than predicted, charging cars with home batteries could make economic sense sooner than I expect.<\/li>\n<li>If you already have a home battery then it&#8217;s a sunk cost.\u00a0 If you are not planning to replace it after the end of its lifespan its cost isn&#8217;t a consideration in how you use it.\u00a0 If you are intending to replace it then you should take the expected cost of its replacement into account.\u00a0 For example, if you think home batteries will be much cheaper in 5 years time you may not mind using your battery in a way that will cause it to wear out rapidly.\u00a0 You may decide to do the same if you are planning to move and have a home battery you can&#8217;t take with you.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>To Sum Up&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>Unless there are special circumstances, charging an electric car with a home battery won&#8217;t\u00a0 pay for itself anytime soon and it&#8217;s also likely to remain an environmental negative for a considerable time.\u00a0 However, while it seems unlikely to me, if technology changes fast enough it may make sense within 5 years.<\/p>\n<p>So feel free to go out and buy that electric car without worrying about having enough home-battery storage to charge it every night.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The first thing I&#8217;ll do in this article is point out it&#8217;s difficult to fit caveats into a headline.\u00a0 The second thing I&#8217;ll do now I&#8217;m writing the article and have the space to explain is state there are exceptions to the two main points I am about to make, which are: It doesn&#8217;t make [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":32070,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[788],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31664","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-ev-chargers","entry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.2 (Yoast SEO v27.2) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>EV Charging From Grid Cheaper And Greener Than From A Home Battery<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Want to charge your electric car with a home solar battery for environmental and financial reasons? 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