{"id":3960,"date":"2014-08-27T21:22:05","date_gmt":"2014-08-27T11:52:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=3960"},"modified":"2019-04-15T14:50:07","modified_gmt":"2019-04-15T04:20:07","slug":"solar-hurt-big-energys-profits-last-saturday","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/solar-hurt-big-energys-profits-last-saturday\/","title":{"rendered":"Is midday the new off peak &#8211; thanks to solar?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_3961\" style=\"width: 660px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/pylons.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3961\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3961\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/pylons.jpg\" alt=\"pylons\" width=\"650\" height=\"433\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-3961\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pylons carrying electricity at $0.005 per kWh.\u00a0Last Saturday.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I was at home on a cloudy Saturday morning in Adelaide last week, performing some much needed repairs on my puppets in between refreshing my knowledge of chemistry. (Apparently everything is still made of atoms.) Then I noticed through a crack in the wall that the sun had come out and I opened the electrically operated steel shutters to see that, although there were still patches of cloud around, most of Adelaide was bathed in glorious noon sunshine.<\/p>\n<p>On a whim I decided to check what effect this break in the weather had on grid demand and so I went to the <a title=\"AEMO\" href=\"http:\/\/www.aemo.com.au\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Australian Electricity Market Operator&#8217;s site<\/a>. Fortunately I could do this via internet and so didn&#8217;t have far to walk. I saw there had been quite a steep decline in demand which apparently had gone hand in hand with the clearing skies.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>What was interesting was demand had dropped to just under 900 megawatts, which was the lowest point so far that day. It was the same as grid demand had been at the traditional &#8220;off peak&#8221; period &#8211; \u00a0around three or four o&#8217;clock in the morning.<\/p>\n<p>What was also fascinating was the wholesale electricity price for the state (technically the Regional Reference Price) dropped to <strong>half a cent a kilowatt-hour<\/strong> at about 12:30pm, which is roughly 10 minutes after solar meridian.<\/p>\n<p>[<strong>Note from Finn:<\/strong> That means that in dollar terms, the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/List_of_power_stations_in_South_Australia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">coal and gas fired power stations\u00a0<\/a>\u00a0are technically getting &#8220;two fifths of rock\u00a0all&#8221; for burning all that coal and gas for that time\u00a0which used to be one of their most profitable periods . No wonder their owners are lobbying to scrap the Renewable Energy Target!]<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t recall it ever being that low in the middle of the day before, and to the best of my knowledge it has never been that low, but I can&#8217;t be certain for while I try to obsessively stare at the little graph of South Australian electricity prices, I find I keep getting distracted by other activities such as watching paint dry or using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stubaier-gletscher.com\/eng\/Winter\/Stubai-Live\/Webcams\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">glacier cam\u00a0to watch glaciers melt<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t want to speculate on exactly why the wholesale electricity price was so low at that point, as it depends on all kinds of factors such as how much the wind was blowing, what particular games dispatchable generators were playing with each other at the time, and what was going on in Mordor. Sorry, I mean Victoria. However, what is clear is that as rooftop solar capacity continues to expand in South Australia it will become common for grid demand during the day to fall below the night time minimum.<\/p>\n<p>Currently South Australia has roughly 530 megawatts of rooftop solar capacity and on a cloudless day, which happens a lot around here, is capable of providing over 400 megawatts of power around noon. As the installed capacity exceeds one gigawatt, which it will, our new off peak period of lowest grid demand will consist of the majority of sunlit hours around noon in autumn, spring, and winter.<\/p>\n<p>This will have many interesting consequences for electricity generation in Australia, which I will go into in future articles. 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