{"id":41425,"date":"2020-07-27T14:14:07","date_gmt":"2020-07-27T03:44:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=41425"},"modified":"2024-10-01T14:07:26","modified_gmt":"2024-10-01T04:37:26","slug":"big-vs-home-batteries","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/","title":{"rendered":"Will The Rise Of Big Grid Batteries Make Home Batteries Pointless?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_41611\" style=\"width: 1210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-41611\" class=\"wp-image-41611 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/big-grid-battery.jpg\" alt=\"Big grid batteries vs. home batteries\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/big-grid-battery.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/big-grid-battery-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/big-grid-battery-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/big-grid-battery-768x402.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-41611\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image: Tesla<\/p><\/div>\r\n<p>Long ago, when the internet was made of nothing but\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=yfJXd0rSCqo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">stone knives and bearskins,<\/a>\u00a0it sounded like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=iHW1ho8L7V8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this<\/a>, and looked rubbish:<!--more--><\/p>\r\n<div id=\"attachment_41599\" style=\"width: 2090px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-41599\" class=\"wp-image-41599 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/old-sq.jpg\" alt=\"SolarQuotes screenshot\" width=\"2080\" height=\"1568\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/old-sq.jpg 2080w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/old-sq-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/old-sq-1024x772.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/old-sq-768x579.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/old-sq-1536x1158.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/old-sq-2048x1544.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2080px) 100vw, 2080px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-41599\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A long time ago on an internet far, far away Finn paid a Romanian $60 to design a website.<\/p><\/div>\r\n<p>Around the same time, some commentators claimed residential solar power made no financial sense because large solar farms were cheaper.\u00a0 Sometimes they would go into a rant about how rooftop solar only existed because of subsidies. \u00a0I never bothered to reply. I didn&#8217;t think it was worth the trouble, as the Australian internet was particularly primitive at the time. Our bearskins were still wrapped around live bears.<\/p>\r\n<p>While these people seem to have disappeared from Australia,<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-1' id='enref-41425-1' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>1<\/a><\/sup> every now and then an American pipes up to tell us we&#8217;re doing it wrong.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>And now some Australians are claiming the same about batteries. They insist home batteries make no sense because big-ass batteries, like the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/tesla-big-battery-first-year\/\">Tesla Big Battery<\/a> in SA, are so much cheaper per-installed-kWh they&#8217;ll drive home batteries out of existence.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>While it&#8217;s true big batteries can be built and maintained for less per-kWh, it is not true that they will out-compete home batteries forcing them out of the market.\u00a0 We will end up with a mix of large and small batteries and I predict, in the medium-term, most battery storage will be in homes, businesses, and vehicles.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>There are two big reasons why big batteries won&#8217;t dominate:<\/p>\r\n<ol>\r\n<li>The difference between retail and wholesale electricity prices. Small-scale batteries are &#8216;Behind The Meter&#8217;, just like rooftop solar panels<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-2' id='enref-41425-2' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>2<\/a><\/sup>. So when a building uses energy from its own battery it saves the <em>retail<\/em> price of electricity. \u00a0Retail prices are, on average, much higher than the wholesale price of electricity. Big batteries can only earn wholesale prices for selling kilowatt-hours into the grid.<\/li>\r\n<li>A Behind The Meter battery can provide backup power to the property that is behind the same meter.\u00a0 If the grid goes down, having a big battery on the other end of the grid won&#8217;t help your home.\u00a0<\/li>\r\n<\/ol>\r\n<p>Because the Australian internet is now so advanced<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-3' id='enref-41425-3' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>3<\/a><\/sup> and capable of downloading dozens of cat pictures every day, I am now taking the opportunity to officially reply to people who insist big batteries will beat home batteries. As a bonus, my arguments will also apply just in case there is anyone still around who says rooftop solar power makes no sense because of large solar farms.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<h2>Wholesale Vs Retail<\/h2>\r\n<p>There are two<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-4' id='enref-41425-4' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>4<\/a><\/sup> ways solar farms can sell their electricity:<\/p>\r\n<ol>\r\n<li>Sell on the wholesale electricity market and receive whatever the market price is at the time.<\/li>\r\n<li>Have a Power Purchase Agreement (PPA) that pays a fixed price.\u00a0 Most solar farms have these.\u00a0 The amount is based on what wholesale prices are expected to be &#8211; weighted by expected output.\u00a0 This should be similar to the average price the solar farm would receive if it sold its output on the wholesale market, but without the uncertainty.\u00a0<\/li>\r\n<\/ol>\r\n<p>The average wholesale electricity price is far less than the retail price charged on your power bills:<\/p>\r\n<div id=\"attachment_41602\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-41602\" class=\"wp-image-41602 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Home-Battery-Installs-In-Australia-1.jpg\" alt=\"2020 wholesale vs. retail electricity prices\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Home-Battery-Installs-In-Australia-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Home-Battery-Installs-In-Australia-1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/Home-Battery-Installs-In-Australia-1-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-41602\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sources: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/energy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SolarQuotes Retail Electricity Plan Comparison Tool<\/a>\u00a0(after any discounts, include GST, and are for standard tariffs),\u00a0AEMO<\/p><\/div>\r\n<p>The reason the retail price is much higher than the wholesale price is that it includes the wholesale price plus a heap of other costs.\u00a0 Here are the components of your electricity bill:<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li><strong>Wholesale prices:<\/strong>\u00a0 Paying generators to provide electricity.<\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Long-distance transmission:<\/strong>\u00a0 High voltage transmission lines used to move power long distances.<\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Local distribution:<\/strong>\u00a0 Local electrical substations and poles and wires that provide electricity to homes and businesses.<\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Metering:<\/strong>\u00a0 Installing and reading meters &#8212; reading meters is getting cheaper due to increasing use of meters smart enough to read themselves.<\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Environmental Policies:<\/strong> The main one is our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/how-australia-ended-up-with-a-renewable-energy-target\/\">Renewable Energy Target<\/a> that subsidises large scale solar and wind farms as well as small scale rooftop solar power.\u00a0 These subsidies are being <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/solar-panel-rebate-phased-1st-january-2017\/\">phased out<\/a>.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-5' id='enref-41425-5' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>5<\/a><\/sup><\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Retailing:<\/strong>\u00a0 Billing, sales, customer inquiries, devising devious new methods of confusing customers, etc.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>Once everything else is added on, the wholesale price is only a modest slice of your bill.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>When selling energy, a utility-scale battery will only receive the wholesale spot price, but when a home battery&#8217;s energy is used in the home (behind the meter) it saves the retail price of electricity.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-6' id='enref-41425-6' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>6<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\r\n<h2>Time-Of-Use Tariffs<\/h2>\r\n<p>The retail charges on the previous chart are for standard tariffs, i.e a flat rate per-kWh. \u00a0Time-of-use tariffs, which vary the per-kWh charge throughout the day, have the potential to increase the return from a home battery but are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/batteries-time-of-use-tariffs\/\">not as effective<\/a> as some think.\u00a0 Usually, if a home has solar panels and no battery they are better off with a standard tariff, but if they get a battery they should definitely consider if they&#8217;d be better off changing to time-of-use.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<h2>Wholesale Electricity Prices Are Volatile<\/h2>\r\n<p>Wholesale electricity spot prices are volatile and can swing wildly.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s the 5-minute spot price for the South Australia wholesale electricity market over several days last week (July 2020).\u00a0 The highest spot price of 43.395 cents per kilowatt-hour is shown, as well as the lowest of 3.701 cents:<\/p>\r\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-41604 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/sa-wholesale-prices2.jpg\" alt=\"Wholesale electricity price volatility\" width=\"1000\" height=\"396\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/sa-wholesale-prices2.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/sa-wholesale-prices2-300x119.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/sa-wholesale-prices2-768x304.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>These 5-minute prices aren&#8217;t what retailers pay for the energy they on-sell at retail rates.\u00a0 The actual price is the average of the 5-minute prices in a half-hour period with a price cap limit.\u00a0 But on the 1st of October 2021we will change to <a href=\"https:\/\/aemo.com.au\/-\/media\/files\/electricity\/nem\/5ms\/program-information\/2020\/5ms-factsheet-updated-july-2020.pdf?la=en&amp;hash=C57B9903988ECEB40ABEC3CE9D496DA6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">5-minute settlement<\/a>.[1.\u00a0<strong><em>Update 29th July 2020:<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0<em>I originally wrote the change to five minute settlement was would occur on the 1st of July 2021, but I&#8217;ve been informed it&#8217;s now delayed until the 1st of October 2021.<\/em>] \u00a0 This will improve the return from batteries, but by then there will be enough battery capacity to considerably reduce the volatility in wholesale prices and this will reduce the amount of money that can be made.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>But 5-minute settlement will still improve the return from home batteries that can buy and sell on the wholesale market via a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/battery-storage\/vpp-comparison\/\">Virtual Power Plant<\/a> or VPP. \u00a0 VPPs\u00a0could greatly improve the return from batteries, but they could also be used by retailers to rip people off, so be careful when signing up to one.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<h2>Wholesale Electricity Prices Can Be Negative<\/h2>\r\n<p><em><strong>UPDATE 28th July 2020:\u00a0 <\/strong>I made a mistake with the maximum prices given below.\u00a0 I have corrected the passage below, but it was a stupid mistake and I apologize for it.\u00a0 If it was the first time I had done something like this I might not feel so bad, but I&#8217;ve done this sort of thing before.<\/em><sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-7' id='enref-41425-7' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>7<\/a><\/sup><em>\u00a0 I will try not to let you down in the future.<\/em><\/p>\r\n<p>The highest 5-minute price above is 43 cents per kilowatt-hour but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aemc.gov.au\/news-centre\/media-releases\/schedule-reliability-settings-2020-2021\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this page<\/a> from the Australian Energy Market Commission gives the Market Cap Price for this financial year as $15 per kilowatt-hour.\u00a0 But wholesale spot prices can also go negative, as this graph of SA wholesale prices starting on the afternoon of the 19th July 2020 shows:<\/p>\r\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-41605 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/sa-low-whsale2.jpg\" alt=\"Negative wholesale electricity prices\" width=\"1000\" height=\"388\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/sa-low-whsale2.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/sa-low-whsale2-300x116.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/sa-low-whsale2-768x298.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>While it may seem odd for prices to go negative,<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-8' id='enref-41425-8' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>8<\/a><\/sup> it occurs when too much electricity is being fed into the grid and has two advantages:<\/p>\r\n<ol>\r\n<li>Anyone directly exposed to spot prices will use as much electricity as they can because they will be paid to use it.\u00a0 This includes utility-scale batteries and home VPPs.<\/li>\r\n<li>It encourages generators to reduce output because they have to pay to generate.<\/li>\r\n<\/ol>\r\n<p>The graph shows electricity prices hitting negative $1 per kilowatt-hour, which I believe is the lowest 5-minute price possible.\u00a0 This means the maximum difference between the minimum stem price and the market cap price is $16 per kilowatt-hour.\u00a0 In practice, it&#8217;s not going to be easy for a battery to make this much because after charging up at the &#8216;maximum&#8217; minimum price it may be months before it can be sold at the maximum normal STEM price. \u00a0But it is possible for the price on the wholesale spot market to be much higher than the retail price.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>A home battery can play the wholesale market by joining a Virtual Power Plant, but it&#8217;s also possible through an electricity retailer that passes through the real-time wholesale rate, such as those nice folk at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/amber-electric-review\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Amber Electric<\/a>.<\/p>\r\n<h2>Benefits Beyond Buying &amp; Selling Electricity<\/h2>\r\n<p>Batteries can provide a whole stack of benefits beyond buying and selling electricity through what&#8217;s called &#8220;revenue stacking&#8221;.<\/p>\r\n<p>The Rocky Mountain Institute, a sustainability organization in Americaland, has a graphic displaying 13 different services batteries can provide. See page six of <a href=\"https:\/\/rmi.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/RMI-TheEconomicsOfBatteryEnergyStorage-FullReport-FINAL.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this report<\/a>.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-9' id='enref-41425-9' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>9<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0 It divides batteries into three categories based on their location:<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li><strong>Transmission:<\/strong>\u00a0 These are big grid batteries, typically located away from population centres.\u00a0 The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/tesla-big-battery-first-year\/\">Hornsdale Power Reserve<\/a> in South Australia &#8212; or Tesla Big Battery as it&#8217;s often called &#8212; is an example.<\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Distribution:<\/strong>\u00a0 These are used to support and provide services to local grids.\u00a0 They vary a lot in size but generally don&#8217;t come close to large utility-scale batteries.\u00a0<\/li>\r\n<li><strong>Behind the Meter:<\/strong>\u00a0 These are residential and commercial batteries such as an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/battery-storage\/reviews\/lg-chem-review.html\">LG Chem RESU<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/battery-storage\/reviews\/tesla-powerwall-2-review.html\">Tesla Powerwall<\/a> you might buy for your home or business.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>Of the 13 services, only Behind the Meter batteries (the pink ring) can do them all, provided they participate in a suitable Virtual Power Plant.<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-10' id='enref-41425-10' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>10<\/a><\/sup> \u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-41430 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/rmi_battery_stacking.png\" alt=\"Services batteries can provide\" width=\"1925\" height=\"1639\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/rmi_battery_stacking.png 1925w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/rmi_battery_stacking-300x255.png 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/rmi_battery_stacking-1024x872.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/rmi_battery_stacking-768x654.png 768w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/rmi_battery_stacking-1536x1308.png 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1925px) 100vw, 1925px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>The 4 services that only Behind The Meter batteries can provide are:<\/p>\r\n<ol>\r\n<li>Backup Power<\/li>\r\n<li>Increased PV Self Consumption<\/li>\r\n<li>Demand Charge Reduction<\/li>\r\n<li>Time-of-use Bill Management<\/li>\r\n<\/ol>\r\n<p>The first two are the main reasons people <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/101-guides\/buying-batteries\/\">buy home batteries<\/a> &#8212; people like the idea of having power in a blackout and want to use their low-cost solar energy at night.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>The third &#8212; Demand Charge Reduction &#8212; only applies to businesses that have to pay a demand charge based on the maximum amount of power they use.\u00a0 While there have been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/residential-demand-tariffs-have-arrived-and-theyre-vicious\/\">attempts<\/a> to introduce demand charges for households, they haven&#8217;t caught on and I don&#8217;t approve of them because of the extra layer of complexity.<\/p>\r\n<p>The final battery service &#8212; Time-of-use Bill Management &#8212; minimizes bills by discharging or reducing grid electricity consumption during peak times<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-11' id='enref-41425-11' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>11<\/a><\/sup>.<\/p>\r\n<p>When the value of these four services is considered, if home batteries can be installed at a low enough cost, utility-scale batteries will never stop them from being worthwhile.\u00a0 Even if we could build big batteries for just 1 cent per kilowatt-hour, it would still be economically worthwhile to pay to install Behind the Meter batteries in homes and businesses. \u00a0<\/p>\r\n<h2>A Quick Example<\/h2>\r\n<p>If a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/battery-storage\/comparison-table\/\">home battery<\/a> has the following characteristics:<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>A standard tariff of 25 cents per kilowatt-hour.<\/li>\r\n<li>A solar <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/systems\/feed-in-tariffs\/\">feed-in tariff<\/a> of 10 cents per kilowatt-hour.<\/li>\r\n<li>Round-trip efficiency of 90%.<\/li>\r\n<li>An average of 5 kilowatt-hours of grid electricity displaced each night<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/big-vs-home-batteries\/#en-41425-12' id='enref-41425-12' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(41425)'>12<\/a><\/sup>.<\/li>\r\n<li>The battery provides no benefit other than reducing electricity bills.<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>This would save an average of $1.25 a day, less the solar feed-in tariff that is forgone by charging it.\u00a0 With battery losses, the lost feed-in tariff would come to 50 cents for a total saving of 75 cents per day or $274 a year.\u00a0Assuming a simple payback time under 7 years for the homeowner to consider it worthwhile, then if the battery could be installed for under $2,000 it will be worthwhile, no matter how cheap big grid batteries get.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<p>While $2,000 is far cheaper than any installed 5 kWh+ battery available at the moment, many people will be happy to pay more when they consider the battery&#8217;s other benefits, such as buying and selling electricity on the wholesale market and backup power.<\/p>\r\n<p>Unfortunately, even with these added benefits, home batteries are unlikely to pay for themselves at their current prices, with the possible exception of South Australia where there are hefty subsidies from both the government and VPP operators.<\/p>\r\n<h2>Batteries Will Benefit Everyone<\/h2>\r\n<p>Provided batteries fall enough in price, it will make sense to put them in homes no matter how cheap big batteries get.\u00a0 If a home battery can back up a home, earn credits from a VPP and save enough money on electricity bills, why wouldn&#8217;t people get one?<\/p>\r\n<div class=\"btn-leave-a-review\" style=\"padding-bottom: 20px;\" align=\"center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/quote\/battery_feedback\/\">Have a solar battery? Leave a review<\/a><\/div>\r\n<p>At the moment less than 1 in 100 Australian homes have batteries and far fewer are in Virtual Power Plants.\u00a0 But when we get to the point where 1 in 100 households have a modern home battery that is part of a VPP there will be a significant benefit to the grid. All those batteries will be able to provide as much power as a medium-sized power station. 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