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\"Nigel<\/p>\n

When I asked Solar Analytics\u2019 head of business development Nigel Morris for a chat about the company\u2019s partnership with Sungrow, I didn\u2019t expect to end up in a conversation about system interoperability and standardisation.<\/p>\n

But that\u2019s where we ended up, because interoperability is one of the reasons Sungrow is the first inverter vendor Solar Analytics has partnered with in a South Australian pilot<\/a>\u00a0announced in late September 2020.<\/p>\n

Morris told me Solar Analytics has long hoped it could directly manage customers\u2019 inverters, and that desire was given a sharp impetus by the South Australian Government\u2019s regulations that require relevant agents (RA) to respond to AEMO directions within 15 minutes.<\/p>\n

Solar Analytics wanted its RA service to offer better value than merely curtailing a customer\u2019s output on AEMO\u2019s say-so, and while the company was deciding how to address its entry into the RA market, its partnership with Sungrow was in its early stages.<\/p>\n

In its RA role, Morris said, Solar Analytics had a range of options.<\/p>\n

\u201cThere were a number of options available to us – a smart meter, DRM [demand response management – SolarQuotes<\/i>], a watt-watcher device. There were a number of things we could do to solve some of the problems.\u201d<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

\u201cOur partnership with Sungrow was starting – we realised if we could do this with Sungrow, we could solve everything better, because we might not have to switch customer systems off.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The Sungrow partnership<\/a> lets Solar Analytics implement a dynamic export control strategy, he said. That\u2019s far better than simply curtailing customer solar systems.<\/p>\n

\u201cLet\u2019s say AEMO says \u2018curtail in these areas\u2019. Turning the entire system off \u2026 is not good value. It\u2019s very brutal – if you turn 20,000 systems off, that\u2019s a pretty brutal impact, it can cause the network to collapse because it\u2019s such a rapid shift.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

With data from Sungrow inverters<\/a> integrated into its systems, Solar Analytics can make more sophisticated decisions.<\/p>\n

\u201cBefore I throttle or turn off a system, I can ask \u2018is the site consuming all the energy coming from its solar?\u2019 If it is, there\u2019s no net benefit from turning the system off. It\u2019s better to limit the output to what the site is using.”<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

\u201cWe can do that dynamically pretty much in real time – we can follow the load.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

At the same time as taking pressure off the network, the customer\u2019s savings are protected, which is \u201cvastly superior to a crude switch\u201d. And the Sungrow system supports South Australia\u2019s dynamic export control requirements that come into play from July 2021.<\/p>\n

Interoperability<\/h2>\n

What\u2019s this got to do with interoperability?<\/p>\n

Solar Analytics has plans in place to integrate more inverters into its systems, but right now, it\u2019s a lot of effort.<\/p>\n

\u201cOut of all the inverter partners we were talking to, about doing inverter integration, they were the most advanced, the most willing to get excited, and to make changes.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Morris said that as Australia\u2019s renewable energy market evolves, companies like Solar Analytics will want to control more and more different end systems – solar inverters<\/a>, EV chargers, battery chargers, \u201call manner of hardware, devices, and programs”.<\/p>\n

And right now, vendors are completely unready for that world. Solar Analytics has signed agreements with other inverter vendors, Morris said, with testing happening now.<\/p>\n

\u201cThere\u2019s a fair bit of testing to confirm that the APIs work as you expect, then you have to build it all out and get the systems to talk to each other.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

For example, Solar Analytics has worked on devices that support the Modbus industrial control communication protocol. Even though Modbus is truly ancient (it was first published in 1979), vendors can\u2019t resist the temptation to make their own changes.<\/p>\n

And that\u2019s replicated all over the industry, Morris said. At the monitoring and communications level, there\u2019s no standardisation: there\u2019s no common API for monitoring and controlling different inverters.<\/p>\n

\u201cAt least in the case of Sungrow, here\u2019s a manufacturer that\u2019s embraced the API – they\u2019re willing to be open, to give control, follow standards to address the interoperability issues.<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

\u201cSome of the big brand names segregate their monitoring API from the control API and they don\u2019t give access to the control API to anybody. So they might make a change to how an inverter behaves remotely – but they don\u2019t do that openly.<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

\u201cSo you have a whole business philosophy that\u2019s structured around those being segregated.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Openness is a big lesson for industry trying to build \u201cGrid 2.0\u201d, and the vast majority of vendors aren\u2019t ready for it. And while there are \u201calways hacks or workarounds or widgets, but that\u2019s not what we want\u201d.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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