{"id":4575,"date":"2015-03-04T12:31:53","date_gmt":"2015-03-04T03:01:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=4575"},"modified":"2017-04-19T14:41:26","modified_gmt":"2017-04-19T04:11:26","slug":"why-are-solar-owners-charged-gst-on-money-they-never-spent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/why-are-solar-owners-charged-gst-on-money-they-never-spent\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Are Solar Owners Charged GST On Money They Never Spent?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have a 6kW (24 panel) solar system on my roof.<\/p>\n<p>My last quarterly electricity bill is here. The good news is that it was for only $33.60.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4576\" style=\"width: 649px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/bill-gst-solar-e1425437617131.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4576\" class=\"wp-image-4576 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/bill-gst-solar-e1425438175654.png\" alt=\"electricity bill including GST\" width=\"639\" height=\"569\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/bill-gst-solar-e1425438175654.png 639w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/bill-gst-solar-e1425438175654-300x267.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 639px) 100vw, 639px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4576\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">My latest electricity bill. Notice how the GST is way more than 10%<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The interesting thing is the breakdown of the $33.60. If you look at the bottom of the bill, I paid $12.68 in electricity charges but a whopping $20.92 in GST (highlighted in blue on the bill).<\/p>\n<p>You don&#8217;t have to be great at maths to know that 10% of $12.68 is $1.27 not $20.92<!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>So how does AGL get away with charging $20 GST on a $33 bill?<\/h3>\n<p>AGL have to follow rules set down by the ATO for collecting GST. Here&#8217;s\u00a0how those rules apply:<\/p>\n<p>A solar owner will export some solar electricity to the grid if, at any time, they are generating more electricity than they can use in their home.<\/p>\n<p>In my case I exported 2,457 units of electricity at an agreed rate of $0.08 per unit. This means AGL have to pay me $196.56 for that electricity (highlighted in yellow on the bill)<\/p>\n<p>At night solar owners will import any electricity they need from the grid. They have to pay the regular rates for this electricity. In my case I used 502 units at about $0.30 each. I also have to pay a fixed supply charge for 90 days. Add those 2 charges together and I owe AGL $209.24.<\/p>\n<p>It would be nice if AGL subtracted what they owe me from what I owe them ($12.68) and charged me GST on that. But the ATO won\u2019t let them.<\/p>\n<p>The ATO&#8217;s logic is that, if AGL sells me something, then they have to charge GST on the full value. The credit is subtracted only after they have charged GST on the full value of the goods or services supplied. Hence the $20.92 GST on a $12.68 charge!<\/p>\n<h3>But there are substantial other savings in this bill that the ATO can&#8217;t tax me on!<\/h3>\n<p>An interesting thing about solar owners&#8217; electricity bills is that most of their savings are not printed on the bill. To measure them you have to do your own detective work.<\/p>\n<p>These are the savings that you get by &#8216;self consuming&#8217; your own solar electricity.<\/p>\n<p>Any of your solar electricity that you use in your home means that you don\u2019t have to buy that electricity from the grid. If you are not buying anything then the ATO can&#8217;t add GST to it!<\/p>\n<p>For example: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/got-33-power-bill-solar-even-crappy-8c-buy-back-rate\/\">using an energy monitor I worked out that I was self-consuming 10 units per day of my own solar electricity<\/a>. This saves me $3.20 per day &#8211; or $300 per quarter. That&#8217;s $300 in quarterly savings that no one can tax me on.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have a 6kW (24 panel) solar system on my roof. My last quarterly electricity bill is here. The good news is that it was for only $33.60. The interesting thing is the breakdown of the $33.60. 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