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Finn Peacock talks shop with Rich Bowden<\/p><\/div>\n

It\u2019s been a big year for news on solar battery storage in Australia. With the imminent release of Tesla\u2019s Powerwall onto the market and influential reports predicting a new way of accessing energy, the trend has not been \u201cif\u201d but \u201cwhen\u201d renewables will end up dominating new energy takeup in the country.<\/p>\n

But how much of this is kosher and how much wishful thinking? Are we on the cusp of a solar battery storage revolution? Can we start tearing up our electricity bills? To find out the answers we asked Finn Peacock, SolarQuotes founder (and professional cutter through bullshit), his opinion on exactly what has made 2015 so important in solar power and what his predictions are for the near future.<\/p>\n

His frank analysis is fascinating, sometimes controversial and may surprise some.<\/p>\n

SQ: Has 2015 been a gamechanger for solar power storage? If so why?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Finn:<\/strong> Yes because of Tesla’s innovation.<\/em><\/p>\n

Let me be clear – there is nothing innovative in the battery chemistry they are using or the price per kWh of the actual cells. Anyone can go to Panasonic and buy similar cells for a similar price, if they order enough of them.<\/em><\/p>\n

The stepchange is the 10 year guarantee and the package they have put around the batteries. i.e. the thermal control system which lets you keep the batteries safely indoors, and the power electronics and software that make installing a Powerwall into an existing solar system cost a few hundred bucks in extra hardware and installation labour instead of many, many thousands:<\/em><\/p>\n

[NB: For more, check out Finn’s “The cheap, cheerful way to add a powerwall to your existing solar system<\/a>“.]<\/em><\/p>\n

Tesla have explicitly said that the software + power electronics in the DC-DC converter will allow it to be charged directly from the panel array. No charger required. They have also said that the powerwall can use the existing solar inverter (as long as it can talk to the Tesla BMS). No battery inverter required. Whether a spare input is required is yet to be confirmed. There are rumors that Tesla have worked out a way to put the powerwall between the array and the inverter without compromising the MPPT. But a spare input is probably prudent.<\/em><\/p>\n

The final BOS (Balance of System) hardware required is a meter so the BMS knows when to charge\/discharge. This can be achieved with a $20 CT (Current Transformer).<\/em><\/p>\n

And the major point in all this is that the daily cycling 7kWh powerwall is intended to be installed without backup functionality. This is a complete change of paradigm. Adding batteries without outage protection!<\/em><\/p>\n

This concept is crazy in many installers and consumers’\u00a0minds, but that is what many people looking at\u00a0hybrid are asking for. They want the battery so they can use 7kWh of their solar power through the night. As simple as that. To do this they want a solar system that is going to be as Powerwall compatible as possible. e.g. they want a Fronius or SolarEdge inverter and a nice big panel array.<\/em><\/p>\n

SolarEdge<\/a> have already released details of their solution<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n

The Australian SolarEdge office won’t tell me the pricing, but as an electrical engineer, I know what those boxes have to do (they appear to be a Modbus interface) and it is very cheap and simple electronics. I’m expecting the extra hardware to integrate the Powerwall to be hundreds of dollars not thousands.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

SQ: In your estimation, how long before off grid solar power and storage is viable for Australian households?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Finn:<\/strong> I get into a lot of trouble for saying this. But let me be as clear as I can be. Going off grid if you have a grid connection at your doorstep is financial lunacy.<\/em><\/p>\n

By all means get enough batteries to bring your grid imports down to almost nothing, but don’t disconnect from the grid. You will always have surplus solar and you should use the grid to share it (offsetting coal fired electricity and supporting the grid through peak periods). The Reposit Power<\/a> software that will be added to many\u00a0battery packs in the near future can\u00a0even make the grid a profit centre for you.<\/em><\/p>\n

The grid has been built and all the embodied energy has been spent, so it you have a grid connection use it to share your power and support people without solar. Getting 3 times the amount of batteries so you can go off grid (instead of a moderate amount of batteries to go hybrid) and wasting all your excess solar, and having a diesel generator as a backup is really fricking bad for the environment and your hip pocket.<\/em><\/p>\n

In terms of grid connected storage, in 3 years it will be as popular as solar panels are now.<\/em><\/p>\n

SQ: A number of reports are hinting at a change in the way we access energy. Are traditional fossil fuel utilities dying? How do they need to adapt to survive?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Finn:<\/strong> No new coal plants will be built in Australia. It will go to gas in the medium term. But there will be so much locally produced energy that electricity retailers will soon move to become brokers, not retailers. They’ll buy and sell electricity for individual homes and businesses directly on the wholesale market and take a small percentage, like a stockbroker does buying and selling shares for you. Software innovation will enable this.<\/em><\/p>\n

So there you go, Finn\u2019s full and frank thoughts on the way energy will be sourced in the very near future. What do you think of Finn’s views on solar battery storage in Australia? Will utilities become more like energy brokers as Finn says? Will Tesla\u2019s Powerwall prove to be the gamechanger? Please feel free to add your comments below.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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