{"id":5009,"date":"2015-09-23T13:03:08","date_gmt":"2015-09-23T03:33:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=5009"},"modified":"2017-10-24T13:52:48","modified_gmt":"2017-10-24T03:22:48","slug":"we-ask-five-experts-will-battery-storage-change-the-way-we-live","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/we-ask-five-experts-will-battery-storage-change-the-way-we-live\/","title":{"rendered":"We ask five experts: Will battery storage change the way we live?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the first of a series from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SolarQuotes<\/a>, we ask five eminent experts in the clean energy field to discuss four questions on a selected topic. This month we\u2019ve selected \u201cbattery storage\u201d as the launching pad for some fascinating discussion and advice.<\/p>\n<p>Solar and battery storage has been one of the clean energy talking points of 2015 following the dramatic unveiling of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.teslamotors.com\/en_AU\/powerwall\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Powerwall<\/a> by Tesla\u2019s Elon Musk. However as we\u2019ve seen, the Powerwall isn\u2019t the only option out there in the marketplace and the best battery storage option will differ depending on your situation whether on-grid, off-grid or hybrid solar.<\/p>\n<p>With this in mind we\u2019ve asked our experts what these <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/battery-storage\/comparison-table\/\">solar battery storage<\/a> breakthroughs mean for Australian households and small businesses and what the future holds for energy independence.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Our Big Five panel of experts are:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5013\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Muriel-Watt-2.jpg\" alt=\"muriel watt\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.engineering.unsw.edu.au\/energy-engineering\/\">Muriel Watt<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; Head, Energy Policy &amp; PV, IT Power Australia; and Senior Lecturer, School of Photovoltaics and Renewable Energy Engineering, University of NSW, Muriel has worked in government energy agencies, private companies and universities on energy related matters since 1980, with a strong focus on renewable energy research, development, technologies, deployment and policies.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5016\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Xantor-2.jpg\" alt=\"Xantor Weinberg\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/xantorenergo.wordpress.com\/\">Xantor Weinberg<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; Owner and director of Energo, Xantor is a pioneer of the solar industry and one of the most experienced and highly qualified designers and installers in Australia. Xantor has worked as\u00a0head installer for larger government systems and schools contracts in NSW and also specialises in off grid and ground mounted system design.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-5057\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/warwick.png\" alt=\"warwick\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/warwick.png 200w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/warwick-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/warwick-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sunwiz.com.au\/\">Warwick Johnston<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; Founder of solar consultancy company SunWiz, Warwick is at the centre of helping solar businesses operate more effectively and efficiency. Sunwiz provides clean energy intelligence and looks to help solar businesses grow sustainably.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5045\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Luke-Osborne1.jpg\" alt=\"Luke Osborne\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.repositpower.com\/\">Luke Osborne<\/a> &#8211; Chief Operating Officer Reposit Power.\u00a0Luke has had vast experience working in the Australian, Canadian, USA, NZ and South African electricity sectors. He has been an executive in the electricity industry for over a decade and was formerly COO in Australia\u2019s most successful renewable energy company.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5042\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Geoff-Bragg.jpg\" alt=\"Geoff Bragg\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newenglandsolarpower.com.au\/\">Geoff Bragg<\/a> &#8211; As Chairman of NSW <a href=\"http:\/\/www.seia.org.au\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Solar Energy Industries Assoc<\/a> (SEIA), Secretary of the <a href=\"http:\/\/solar.org.au\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Australian Solar Council<\/a> (ASC) and Secretary of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.energystorage.org.au\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Australian Energy Storage Council<\/a> (ESC), Geoff is one of the most qualified and experienced solar operators in the sector. As part of the team at New England Solar Power, he\u00a0provides technical and practical knowledge for a range of solar systems both on and off grid.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Question #1<\/strong> What do you say to Australians who ask \u201cwhat\u2019s the best battery storage for us\u201d?<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><b>Warwick Johnston:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIf you are connected to the grid and are looking to increase the utilisation of your solar energy, then lithium batteries are best, and you needn&#8217;t get a whopping big battery &#8211; the first few kWh of storage does the heavy lifting. If you&#8217;re not connected to the grid, then lead-acid batteries are the best bang for [your] buck.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><b>Xantor Weinberg:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI would suggest three things at present:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you want to use a battery with predictable outcome, use lead\/acid or lead\/gel.<\/span><\/li>\n<li>If you want to use a potentially much better and \u2013 per kWh storage over its lifetime \u2013 cheaper battery, use lithium.<\/li>\n<li>If you don\u2019t want to spend the money right now and want to wait for the lithium prices to come down, use AGM batteries.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">These will last you 3 to 5 years and bridge the time until lithium batteries are a not such a big investment. I try to make it as simple as possible for the customers, so I ask them some questions and come up with a suggestion [based on their answers].<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><b>Muriel Watt:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThis depends what they want to use storage for \u2013 to prevent export of PV electricity, to provide back-up during blackouts, to reduce demand during peak tariff periods, to reduce peak demand charges etc. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For households with PV and who want to make sure they can use all the power they produce, lead-acid batteries are the best choice for now, because their performance is well established and installation standards are in place. \u00a0Li-ion batteries look promising, but we need to know more about the performance of the different types, under different conditions of use. \u00a0We also need to develop safety standards for use in houses. \u00a0Householders should check with their insurance companies before installing Li-ion batteries in their homes.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Luke Osborne:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>&#8220;The best storage is one that complements your home, your solar (if you already have it) and your consumption patterns.<\/p>\n<p>There are several things to think about, starting with the space available. There are indoor-rated units and outdoor-rated units. Then of course there is the energy storage capacity, measured in kWh and the power, measured in kW. The GridCredits controller will use a system with more energy capacity to increase the self consumption ratio &#8211; meaning you consume more of the energy that is generated by your solar. If the unit is too small, it will fill up and you will lose solar to the grid. A high power unit will be able to keep up with large solar systems and\/or heavy instantaneous consumption.<\/p>\n<p>A high power system will also be able to earn more with Reposit&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.repositpower.com\/faqs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GridCredits<\/a> system, which sells energy back into the grid when there are price spikes. The more energy you can push out during the price spikes, the more you can earn.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Geoff Bragg:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8220;I&#8217;d say that depends on what you are trying to achieve. There are some critical questions that could be asked:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Does the existing solar PV system generate enough energy to meet the average daily consumption of energy?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What proportion of energy consumption occurs at night?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If net metered, how much energy is currently exporting to the grid?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Is back-up power during grid outages valued?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How much autonomy is required? Are you comfortable being reliant on grid power, or do you want the grid only as a backup?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Are you looking to expand later, and perhaps leave the grid down the track?<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Is payback period or a high level of autonomy more important?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The answers to these questions will help decide how much energy storage is required, as well as the inverter\/charger\/energy management system that is most appropriate.There are a growing number of manufacturers and design architectures, and each have their pros and cons. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One notable and atypical feature of the Tesla Powerwall is its design architecture of battery storage at LV, allowing for integration into many existing PV systems without the need for a new inverter, albeit at the expense of back-up power in the event of a grid outage. Back-up power may be of low priority for many consumers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This dramatically reduces the overall cost of introducing energy storage to an existing PV system, and at the same time eliminates redundant equipment that may be only part way into its lifetime. It will be interesting to see if other manufacturers move in this direction.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Question #2<\/strong>\u00a0Will solar and battery storage change the way Australian households and small businesses source energy?<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Warwick:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSolar and battery storage will revolutionise consumers relationship with the energy grid.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><b>Xantor:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cDefinitely YES. People have been hanging out for a good storage solution for years.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><b>Muriel:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSolar PV has already changed the options available to consumers and more than 1 million households in Australia have chosen to source at least part of their electricity from solar. \u00a0As battery prices fall and feed-in tariffs for exported solar power are reduced, the option of storage with PV will start to make sense for an increasing number of customers. \u00a0This will increase the percentage of solar energy in our electricity mix, as it will facilitate longer periods of on-site energy use and hence larger solar systems.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Luke:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>&#8220;Definitely. It is now cheaper to get power from your own roof than from a coal mine hundreds of miles away. But with the rise of renewable energy like rooftop solar, we need new ways to balancing the grid. With the GridCredits controller, you can help keep the grid stable whilst earning money. When prices spike in the wholesale markets this means that there is an engineering problem: a shortage of energy perhaps or the unexpected failure of a transmission line. By injecting power at this precise moment, the GridCredits controller automatically keeps the system stable.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Geoff:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8220;Most certainly it will. The transition to greater autonomy will be driven as much by the desire to avoid giving away solar energy to the utilities for pathetic feed-in tariffs, as it will the economic drive to save on energy costs. The economic analysis of energy storage points toward a sweet-spot of relatively small amounts of energy storage in residential situations, cycled heavily and worked hard, to maximise the economic benefits, leading to the shortest possible payback period. This probably means that the first wave of residential energy storage will provide low levels of autonomy, perhaps a step towards leaving the grid, but far from it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It&#8217;s worth remembering that purchasing decisions are often made emotionally, backed up by rational arguments. This is evident with the furore of interest in the Tesla product, when it is not even available yet, and many consumers don&#8217;t even understand what it could do for them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The desire for autonomy from the utilities may drive people to invest in energy storage well beyond the economic sweet spot; in my experience with off-grid solar, people who leave the grid just love it, many saying they will never return.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Question #3<\/strong>\u00a0Will storage such as the Powerwall with solar panels make going off the grid financially viable in the long run? If so, how long before this is so?<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><b>Warwick:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIf you&#8217;ve got a grid-connection. going off grid isn&#8217;t going to be financially viable for a long time&#8230; The grid is like a super-huge battery that costs a lot less than your own battery bank.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><b>Xantor:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt will. My guess is that it\u2019ll take about 5 years.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><b>Muriel:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cCost effective and reliable storage will definitely make the off-grid option more feasible, depending on the regulations, and perhaps even penalties in place around doing so. \u00a0Going off-grid requires much more careful management, as well as minimisation of load. \u00a0So energy efficient buildings and appliances become more important, as does timing of energy use. \u00a0Based on the price projections being made by battery manufacturers, the off-grid option may be cost effective within 2-5 years; even less for an efficient household.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Luke:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>&#8220;Reposit doesn&#8217;t think it is sensible to go off grid unless you are in a remote location. It is much better to work with Reposit&#8217;s partners so you can have a new, more rewarding relationship with the grid &#8211; buying when prices are low and selling when prices are high.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Geoff:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>&#8220;<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Leaving the grid is an entirely different exercise to maximising self-consumption of solar energy; it requires an entirely different level of autonomy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The falling cost of energy storage will eventually make leaving the grid financially viable.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The financial viability of grid defection is totally dependent on the utilities tariff structures, relative to the falling cost of storage. The utilities may push consumers towards grid defection by raising fixed charges and introducing capacity or peak demand charges. The death spiral of the traditional utility is inevitable, however some nimble utilities will find new business in supplying energy to consumers from new technologies.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You&#8217;re after a time-frame. From what I read, I&#8217;m estimating we will see significant numbers of grid defections by 2020. The rate will depend on the utility strategy over the next 5 years, as well as the political response when the defections begin to be noticeable.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Question #4<\/strong> \u00a0Will wind, solar and battery storage spell the end for fossil fuels as a dominant fuel source? If yes, how long before this occurs?<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><b>Warwick:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cFossil fuels are already in decline in our energy mix, but they still dominate. I expect that every house and business will have a solar system by 2030.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><em>Xantor:<\/em>\u00a0<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThis is a more complex thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In short, yes. It will take (my believe, based on my hope) 25 (electricity) to 50 years (all our energy consumption).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Just one more thing: The Tesla Power Wall is not designed to go off the grid at the moment. It\u2019ll be easy to make them off-grid compatible, but currently they are only for on-grid storage.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><b>Muriel:\u00a0<\/b><\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">\u201cWind and solar have already overtaken fossil fuels in capacity installed in many countries over recent years. \u00a0Cost effective storage will reduce concerns around intermittency and hence increase their market share. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In Australia, some analysts have predicted that no new coal fired power stations will be built. \u00a0Many of our current coal plants are reaching the end of their expected life, while gas-fired plants are losing their market share in the high value peak period. \u00a0The prevailing policy drivers will determine whether old plant is retired or refurbished. \u00a0However, in the meantime, renewable options are reducing in price and certainly have a higher level of social acceptance so, for the electricity sector, renewables seem likely be the predominant energy source by mid-century. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For the transport sector, the transition may take longer: a range of biofuels is under development, while a transition to electric vehicles is also dependent on battery developments which parallel those in the power sector. \u00a0However, once more of the transport fleet is electrified, renewable sources open up. \u00a0Since replacement times for cars are much lower than for power plants, the transition could occur quite fast once it gets going.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Luke:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>&#8220;It already happening. Over 1000MW of coal generation has closed in recent years and the system operator predicts that there is another 10,000MW of spare capacity which will need to be closed in the very near future. At the same time it is expected that 20,000MW of solar will be installed by 2030, much of which will include battery storage.<\/p>\n<p>The grid will be very different in 2030 with fossil fuels only used in special circumstances. We think that a viable mix is already available for the national grid; wind farms generating overnight, solar during the day and existing hydro and storage filling in the gaps.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Geoff:<\/em>\u00a0<\/strong>&#8220;<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes, renewables will replace fossil fuels eventually. <a href=\"http:\/\/tonyseba.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tony Seba<\/a>&#8216;s work on Clean Disruption of Energy and Transportation leads me to think that critical tipping points will be reached around 2020 to 2022 where Electric Vehicle deployment accelerates to the point of no return to fossil fuels. By that time, energy storage costs for stationery energy will have fallen too, and we will begin to see a dramatically different energy sector.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Some fascinating and important points of view from our panel but do you agree with our experts\u2019 opinions? Is there anything you\u2019d like to add to the panel\u2019s answers? Has this article helped you re-think the best battery storage for your situation? Please have your say in our comments field below.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the first of a series from SolarQuotes, we ask five eminent experts in the clean energy field to discuss four questions on a selected topic. This month we\u2019ve selected \u201cbattery storage\u201d as the launching pad for some fascinating discussion and advice. 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