{"id":5450,"date":"2016-03-24T17:34:43","date_gmt":"2016-03-24T08:04:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=5450"},"modified":"2023-11-23T10:37:48","modified_gmt":"2023-11-23T01:07:48","slug":"adding-solar-panels-existing-system-heres-need-know","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/adding-solar-panels-existing-system-heres-need-know\/","title":{"rendered":"Adding Solar Panels To Existing System? Here&#8217;s What You Need To Know."},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_5452\" style=\"width: 660px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5452\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5452\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/adding-solar-panels-to-existing-system.jpg\" alt=\"solar panels with space for adding more\" width=\"650\" height=\"392\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/adding-solar-panels-to-existing-system.jpg 650w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/adding-solar-panels-to-existing-system-300x181.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5452\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Here are your options and gotchas when adding solar panels to an existing system.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Please note:<\/strong> this post was written in 2016<\/p>\n<p><strong>***<a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/how-to-upgrade-solar\/\">Please read this 2022 post for the latest information on upgrading your solar panel array.<\/a>***<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So you&#8217;ve got solar panels on your roof and you want more so you can get your bills even lower?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>You are probably weighing up three alternative approaches to your solar upgrade:<\/p>\n<p><strong>1)<\/strong> Add more panels to your existing system &#8211; using your original inverter.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2)<\/strong> Get a new, bigger inverter and add more panels too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3)<\/strong> Get a whole new separate solar system installed next to the original.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s go through each option in detail so you can weigh up the best approach for you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option\u00a0#1 Adding more panels to existing\u00a0system<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>using your original inverter<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>The first thing to\u00a0be aware of (and not a lot of people know this) is that you are allowed to\u00a0have\u00a0a panel array with a peak power up to 133% of your inverter&#8217;s rated peak power.<\/p>\n<p>For example:<\/p>\n<p>If you have a 1.5kW inverter, you can have up to 2kW of panels attached.<\/p>\n<p>If you have a 3kW inverter you can have up to 4kW of panels attached.<\/p>\n<p>If you have a 5kW inverter you can have up to 6.65kW of panels attached.<\/p>\n<p>And if you don&#8217;t go over the 133%, you can claim the solar rebate (STCs) on those extra panels which will cover a big chunk of their\u00a0of their cost (excluding installation costs and installer margin).<\/p>\n<p>So\u00a0if your inverter is big enough, adding panels is\u00a0a cost-effective option to get more energy. You may be wondering how on earth this can be the case if the inverter limits the power output. Let&#8217;s use a 3kW inverter as an example.<\/p>\n<p>3kW of panels will generally only produce 80% (2.4kW) of their rated peak power <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/5-reasons-your-solar-system-power-is-lower-than-you-expected\/\">due to losses<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>4kW of panels, after losses will produce a peak power of 3.2kW. A 3kW inverter will safely clip this down to 3kW. So you are only losing 0.2kW of power. And that is only for a couple of hours each side of midday on a summer&#8217;s day. In the mornings, evenings and winter the peak power will be way less than the rated 3kW of thew inverter.<\/p>\n<p>So oversizing your inverter by 133% is a good way to squeeze more energy\u00a0from it.<\/p>\n<p>Two\u00a0big caveats here\u00a0are that:<\/p>\n<p><strong>1)<\/strong>Unless your original solar installer does the upgrade you will void your existing system warranty.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2)<\/strong>It depends on your installer finding the same or very similar panels to your existing ones.<\/p>\n<p>If you want more panels than\u00a0your inverter can handle (using the 133% rule), or you can&#8217;t find compatible panels, then your next option\u00a0is:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option #2 Replace your small inverter with a\u00a0bigger inverter\u00a0and add panels.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It seems like a\u00a0waste\u00a0of money and resources to remove\u00a0a perfectly good inverter. \u00a0However the sad truth is that over the last 7 years a lot of the installed inverters that\u00a0have been cheap and nasty and are probably on their last legs. If your inverter is a Sunny Roo, KLNE, JFY, JSI, Aerosharp, Sharp, or other inverter with a penchant for going bang after a few years, then\u00a0this is\u00a0a great opportunity to replace the thing with a genuine premium inverter, such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sma-australia.com.au\">SMA<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Another reason to bite the bullet and swap\u00a0your old inverter for a new bigger one is that one inverter is much easier to add batteries and backup to than two separate ones. So if a battery ready system <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/does-your-hybrid-solar-system-really-need-to-be-blackout-proof\/\">with backup<\/a> is a priority, having a single, large inverter is the way to go. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/truth-battery-ready-solar-systems\/\">This post<\/a> explains what a battery ready system with backup is and how that differs from a battery ready system without backup)<\/p>\n<p>If you do decide that up-sizing your inverter is the way to go then watch out for these gotchas:<\/p>\n<p><strong>a)<\/strong> With panel technology changing so quickly, you may struggle to find extra panels that match your existing array. In this case get an inverter with 2 or more inputs so you can install new, different panels without affecting the old array.<\/p>\n<p><strong>b)<\/strong> If possible get the original company\u00a0to do the work, then they keep the responsibility for the system warranty.<\/p>\n<p><strong>c)<\/strong> I recommend getting an inverter with SUNSPEC\/MODBUS. This is a communications protocol that will make it easier to add batteries in the future. All the SMA models on sale now in Australia have this baked in. I would say that SMA are the safest bet here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>d)\u00a0<\/strong>You can&#8217;t claim any rebate on the inverter, but you can claim the solar rebate on the panels. So put as many panels as you can on that inverter (133% of inverter rated power) because the rebate (STCs) covers a large chunk of their\u00a0cost.<\/p>\n<p>If you don&#8217;t want to replace your existing inverter, then your third option is:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Option #3\u00a0Get a whole new\u00a0separate\u00a0solar system installed next to the original.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This option can make a lot of sense &#8211; if batteries with backup are not on your radar. You get a new system, with a separate warranty. And\u00a0because installers are so efficient at installing whole systems, and don&#8217;t have to fiddle around integrating into existing solar wiring, it can often work out cheaper than upgrading your\u00a0existing system. And yes &#8211; you can claim the <a href=\"http:\/\/solarquotes.com.au\/panels\/rebate\/\">solar rebate<\/a>\u00a0(STCs) again on your second system &#8211; it will already be included in any\u00a0quoted <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/how-much-do-solar-panels-cost.html\">prices<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So to summarise:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Be aware that you can legally oversize most inverters by 133%. This may give you all the energy\u00a0you need with your existing inverter.<\/p>\n<p>If 133% of your inverter rating is not enough, then you can replace your inverter to allow you to\u00a0add more panels. Just be aware that\u00a0this can be surprisingly expensive as it is not as straightforward as a fresh installation.<\/p>\n<p>It is often cheaper to add a whole new solar system using either a conventional string inverter or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/inverters\/micro\/\">micro inverters<\/a> . In grid connect mode these 2 systems side by side will work great, but it can make adding batteries+backup more complicated down the track.<\/p>\n<p>And I&#8217;d be remiss if I didn&#8217;t mention that you can get quotes for a solar system upgrade <a href=\"\/quote\">using my free service here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Please note: this post was written in 2016 ***Please read this 2022 post for the latest information on upgrading your solar panel array.*** So you&#8217;ve got solar panels on your roof and you want more so you can get your bills even lower?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[46],"tags":[500],"class_list":["post-5450","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-solar-panels-2","tag-solar-installation-2","entry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.2 (Yoast SEO v27.2) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Adding Solar Panels To Existing System? 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