{"id":5553,"date":"2016-04-18T14:27:42","date_gmt":"2016-04-18T04:57:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=5553"},"modified":"2022-11-02T14:47:41","modified_gmt":"2022-11-02T04:17:41","slug":"lg-chem-resu-6-4ex-vs-tesla-powerwall","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/lg-chem-resu-6-4ex-vs-tesla-powerwall\/","title":{"rendered":"LG Chem Resu 6.4Ex vs Tesla Powerwall"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_5562\" style=\"width: 567px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5562\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5562\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/powerwall-vs-lg-chem-resu.jpg\" alt=\"LG resu 6.4ex and a powerwall\" width=\"557\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/powerwall-vs-lg-chem-resu.jpg 557w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/powerwall-vs-lg-chem-resu-300x166.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 557px) 100vw, 557px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5562\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">How does the LG Resu compare to the Tesla Powerwall?<\/p><\/div>\n<p>If you are looking at a 6.4kWh Lithium-Ion battery for use with your solar power system in Australia right now, you are probably tossing up between a LG Chem Resu 6.4Ex and the Tesla Powerwall.<\/p>\n<p>To help you decide which one is for you &#8211; here is a side by side comparison, and some commentary on their warranties below.<!--more--><\/p>\n<table id=\"blogtable\" border=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><b>LG Chem Resu 6.4EX<\/b><br \/>\n$7,500<br \/>\n6.4kWh nominal storage<br \/>\n5.1kWh warranted<br \/>\n&#8211;<br \/>\ndrops to 3.8kWh after 7 years<br \/>\n3.6kW steady, 4.6kW peak<br \/>\nsingle or 3 phase<br \/>\nno inverter included<br \/>\n10 year warranty<br \/>\n19.2MWh warranted throughput<br \/>\nwarranty void at 50\u00baC ambient<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\"><b>Tesla Powerwall<\/b><br \/>\n$8,000<br \/>\n6.4 kWh nominal storage<br \/>\n5.4kWh warranted<br \/>\ndrops to 4.6kWh after 2 years<br \/>\ndrops to 3.8kWh after 5 years<br \/>\n3.3 kW, 5kW peak<br \/>\nsingle or 3 phase<br \/>\nno inverter included<br \/>\n10 year Warranty<br \/>\n18MWh warranted throughput<br \/>\nwarranty void if avg temp &gt; 30\u00baC<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>The most important numbers to consider when buying a battery, are the ones that the manufacturer will actually warrant. I&#8217;ve read both warranty documents in detail and here&#8217;s how they compare in terms of battery performance over 10 years:<\/p>\n<h2>Tesla Powerwall<\/h2>\n<p>Despite the 6.4kWh nominal storage capacity, the Tesla Powerwall is only <a href=\"https:\/\/www.teslamotors.com\/sites\/default\/files\/pdfs\/powerwall\/Tesla_Powerwall_Warranty_Australia_R1-04_en.pdf\">warranted<\/a> to give:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>5.4kWh over the first 2 years<\/li>\n<li>4.6kWh for the next 2 years<\/li>\n<li>3.8kWh for the final 5 years of the warranty<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This gives a total of 16,000kWh of warranted energy output over the warranty period cycled once per day, or 18,000kWh if you cycle it more than once per day.<\/p>\n<p>The low kWh for the final 5 years of the warranty is a definite disadvantage, and will cause disappointment for people who were hoping to cover 5-6kWh of energy consumption overnight for the life of the battery.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what the warranty looks like:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5555\" style=\"width: 660px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5555\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5555\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/powerwall-degradation.png\" alt=\"tesla powerwall warranty conditions graph\" width=\"650\" height=\"306\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/powerwall-degradation.png 650w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/powerwall-degradation-300x141.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5555\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Warranted energy storage for the Tesla Powerwall.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Internet connection requirements<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The warranty will be voided after 48 months if you don&#8217;t connect the Teslat Powerwall to the internet and register it within 3 months after the installation. Also your\u00a0internet must not be down for more than 45 days following\u00a0registration or the warranty is voided.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Operating Temperature<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The warranty document does not explicitly give a temperature range for operation or storage &#8211; but it does say the battery must be used as per the user manual. The user manual says &#8220;The average ambient temperature over the system&#8217;s life should be 30\u00b0C or less&#8221;. \u00a0Kudos to Telsa for not voiding the warranty if the battery is occasionally subject to\u00a0some of the\u00a0extreme\u00a0temperatures we get here in Australia.<\/p>\n<h2>LG Chem Resu 6.6 EX Battery<\/h2>\n<p>The LG Chem battery is warranted to retain:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;at least 80% of Nominal Energy 6.4kWh for 7 years&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;and at least 60% of Nominal Energy 6.4kWh [for the following 3 years]&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This gives a total warranted throughput of 17,000kWh\u00a0cycled once per day or 19,200 kWh if you cycle it more than once per day.<\/p>\n<p>The warranty\u00a0also stipulates that you should not discharge more than 1920kWh per year. If you do, then the warranted kWh is reduced on a sliding scale. I won&#8217;t go into the details here &#8211; you can read them in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rpc.com.au\/pdf\/LG_chem_RESU_6.4EX_warranty.pdf\">warranty document<\/a>. I suspect that the details of this\u00a0will be irrelevant to most people as I&#8217;m guessing the Battery Management System (BMS) will be programmed to never breach the 1920kWh per year limit by default.<\/p>\n<p>In the chart below,\u00a0I&#8217;ve worked out the max number of cycles you can\u00a0perform to stay under the warranted kWh as a % of nominal energy, and also keep under the annual kWh limit (1920kWh per year).<\/p>\n<p>As you can see you certainly get the initially\u00a0warranted energy storage, for longer, compared to the Powerwall.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5556\" style=\"width: 660px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5556\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5556\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/lg-resu-degradation.png\" alt=\"LG Chem Resu 6.4EX warranty chart\" width=\"650\" height=\"306\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/lg-resu-degradation.png 650w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/lg-resu-degradation-300x141.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-5556\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">LG Chem Resu 6.4EX warranted energy storage<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Warranted Temperature Range<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The battery warranty is\u00a0voided\u00a0if the battery operates below 0\u00baC or over 40\u00baC. I believe the battery has a temperature cut out switch that makes this impossible &#8211; unless you override the default software.<\/p>\n<p>The warranty is\u00a0voided if the battery is exposed to a temperature over 50\u00baC. So don&#8217;t keep it in an uninsulated garage or shed.<\/p>\n<h2>Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>Both solar batteries are about the same price, give or take $500. Both warrant a similar amount of energy give or take 1,200kWh over 10 years.<\/p>\n<p>The LG&#8217;s warranted energy is more consistent than the Powerwall&#8217;s, which will make it easier to design into your home, and predict savings.<\/p>\n<p>The LG battery is definitely easier to install mechanically.<\/p>\n<p>The LG is\u00a0sold by the major wholesalers, so any installer can get hold of it. The Tesla is only available from a select few installers.<\/p>\n<p>The LG can be expanded by 3.6kWh at a time. The Powerwall can be expanded by 6.4kWh at a time.<\/p>\n<p>The Tesla Powerwall is more tolerant of extreme Aussie temperatures. You have to be careful not to expose the LG batteries to more than 50\u00baC, and be aware that it will cut out automatically at 40\u00baC.<\/p>\n<p>The total installed price of the LG battery will be\u00a0lower because it is compatible with cheaper hybrid inverters. The Tesla Powerwall only works with Solar Edge on single phase and Fronius on 3 phase. This will change when the ~$1,500 SMA Sunny Boy Storage battery inverter is released.<\/p>\n<p>My personal choice would be the LG battery. I value the more consistent, warranted kWh. It is more flexible in terms of solar inverter choice, installer choice, future expansion and installation location. Fully installed, it works out a couple of thousand dollars cheaper. And I have a well insulated garage, so I&#8217;m confident it won&#8217;t get too hot.<\/p>\n<p>But if you are not confident that you can keep the battery under 40\u00baC then the Tesla Powerwall looks like\u00a0a better choice.<\/p>\n<p>And don&#8217;t forget all the other batteries that are out there which you can compare with our comprehensive <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/battery-storage\/comparison-table\/\">solar battery storage comparison table<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you are looking at a 6.4kWh Lithium-Ion battery for use with your solar power system in Australia right now, you are probably tossing up between a LG Chem Resu 6.4Ex and the Tesla Powerwall. 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