{"id":80007,"date":"2023-11-20T06:35:39","date_gmt":"2023-11-19T21:05:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=80007"},"modified":"2023-11-20T06:35:39","modified_gmt":"2023-11-19T21:05:39","slug":"in-house-vs-subcontractor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/in-house-vs-subcontractor\/","title":{"rendered":"In-House Vs Sub-Contractor Solar Installers: Which Is Best?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-80014 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/inhouse-vs-subcontract-installers.jpg\" alt=\"In-house vs sub-contract installers\" width=\"1200\" height=\"630\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/inhouse-vs-subcontract-installers.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/inhouse-vs-subcontract-installers-300x158.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/inhouse-vs-subcontract-installers-1024x538.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/inhouse-vs-subcontract-installers-768x403.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>When wading into the murky waters of rooftop solar for the first time you may have come across people advising you to check that the solar company doesn&#8217;t use sub-contractors to install their systems.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Dig a bit deeper and you&#8217;ll find companies proudly advertising that they only use in-house installers. Beware the sub-contractor or suffer the wrath of Helios the sun god who will strike down your system inoperable before it&#8217;s use-by-date!<\/p>\n<p>Is there any truth to these blanket allegations, or is it a baseless advertising ploy? The poor subbie seems to be copping a lot of flack. Is it warranted? Read on and you&#8217;ll find that, as usual, the answers aren&#8217;t always black and white.<\/p>\n<h2>In The Subbie&#8217;s Defence<\/h2>\n<p>Before we jump in, let me pose you a question; If you were given a job to do in your chosen field, would the quality of your work be different if you were paid wages compared to if you invoiced the client? I&#8217;d be <span style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\">surprised<\/span> disappointed if you answered &#8216;yes&#8217;<sup class='endnote'><a href='https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/in-house-vs-subcontractor\/#en-80007-1' id='enref-80007-1' onclick='return hhEndnotes_show(80007)'>1<\/a><\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>Having worked as an electrician and a solar installer myself &#8211; on wages, as a sub-contractor, and also as a contractor, I can tell you that it was the same person doing the job every time. I had the same skill set and the same work ethic.<\/p>\n<p>Sure, some days were more challenging but good or bad, it was still me, whether or not I was a wage earner or a subbie.<\/p>\n<p>So, which is best, an in-house or sub-contract <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installers\/\">solar installer<\/a>? My answer every time &#8211; it depends on the person, or in the case of a company &#8211; the people.<\/p>\n<h2>Eddy&#8217;s Take On Sub-Contractors<\/h2>\n<p>Eddy May from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installer-review\/nrg-solar---national-renewable-group\/\">NRG Solar<\/a> nails it in this short interview with SolarQuotes founder Finn Peacock earlier this year.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><strong>Finn:<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;Eddie, you&#8217;re in the solar business. Are in-house solar installers better than sub-contractor solar installers?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Eddy:<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n&#8220;It&#8217;s certainly easier to get your processes and culture followed with in-house installers, but it&#8217;s not impossible with sub-contractors. If you have a good culture, good processes, and good sub-contractors that are good people, it really doesn&#8217;t matter how you pay them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Finn:<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;So don&#8217;t necessarily knock back a solar company because they use sub-contract installers?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Eddy:<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;If you&#8217;re looking at somebody&#8217;s reviews, and their reviews are great, and the customers are getting great experiences, and they look like a solid company. They&#8217;ve come out and done the design properly, then really, how they pay the person installing the system is pretty irrelevant.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Finn:<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;Is it fair to say that a lot of really good solar installers don&#8217;t want to be someone else&#8217;s employee?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Eddy:<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;Yeah, it is fair to say that. We&#8217;ve got in-house installers at NRG, and we&#8217;ve got sub-contractors as well. I would love to employ some of our sub-contractors, but they&#8217;re like &#8220;Bugger you, I&#8217;d rather go fishing than work for you on Fridays.&#8221; They get that choice as a sub-contractor, but it doesn&#8217;t make them any less of a good installer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Finn:<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;If you say you&#8217;re not going to use sub-contractors then there&#8217;s this whole pool of brilliant guys that are never going to work for you.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Eddy:<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;I can tell you now, we&#8217;ve got this shortage of people now in this industry. (Virtually) every solar company is trying to employ a sub-contractor. We can&#8217;t afford to wait four years for an apprentice to finish their apprenticeship to then learn how to lead a team.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So what do you do? You go out there and say that guy&#8217;s a great sub-contractor, I&#8217;d love to give him a job. &#8220;No thanks, I&#8217;m happy doing what I&#8217;m doing and I&#8217;m actually getting paid pretty well for once in my life!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Having said that, I can see why businesses that have only in-house installers promote that heavily. I can see why the average person might accept that, but what they don&#8217;t understand is that there&#8217;s a big difference between a sub-contractor to one of the huge companies like AGL (than a smaller company).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(With the bigger company) the person selling the system will never ever meet the sub-contractor, have a relationship with them, or ever talk to them. With someone at NRG Solar, the contractor and consultants know each other. They attend our meetings and are friends. It&#8217;s a lot different of a dynamic.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"youtube-wrapper\"><iframe title=\"NRG and Finn Peacock - Inhouse vs Subcontractor Installers QnA\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/VA7xUHP36iU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<h2>The People Factor<\/h2>\n<p>Eddy&#8217;s words sure substantiate my theory that it&#8217;s the people who count and not the method they&#8217;re paid or the contractual arrangement between them and the solar company employing them to do the job.<\/p>\n<p>In his case, the sub-contractors are a small group that are known to him, and well-versed in his company&#8217;s procedures. Each party relies on the other to make sure their business partnership goes forward with the least amount of hiccups.<\/p>\n<h2>Accreditation And Licensing<\/h2>\n<p>All in-house and sub-contract installers must be CEC accredited to install solar, and be licensed appropriately for the type of electrical work they do in their respective state. There&#8217;s no difference in that regard.<\/p>\n<p>In addition to that, all electrical jobs must be signed off by an electrical contractor. And herein lies a potential problem further down the track.<\/p>\n<p>The solar company that sells the rooftop solar system carries the manufacturer&#8217;s warranty for the product and performance of the system components, but who is liable for the installation and workmanship if something goes wrong?<\/p>\n<p>If it&#8217;s an electrical problem, the buck stops fair and square at the feet of the electrical contractor who signed off that job. So who is that? Does the solar company have a contractor&#8217;s licence? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installers\/licensing-selling-solar\/\">In NSW, QLD, SA, ACT and NT the company must have its own contractor licence, but in VIC, WA and TAS the company can rely on a subcontractor&#8217;s licence.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m talking about something much more serious than a warranty issue here. If an electrical inspector deems a system unsafe or not up to standard due to a shoddy install, they will chase the entity or person nominated on the contractor&#8217;s licence. You&#8217;d want to hope that&#8217;s the person or company who sold you the system.<\/p>\n<p>These are questions that rarely come up before a rooftop solar system is sold to a customer. Am I being overly paranoid here? I don&#8217;t think so. I would say it&#8217;s not unreasonable to ask the question, and see evidence of that before you sign on the dotted line.<\/p>\n<p>In the case of Eddy May&#8217;s video above, his company holds the contractor&#8217;s licence and is liable for any issues relating to his company&#8217;s rooftop solar installs regardless of whether it was an in-house or sub-contract installer. For other companies, I have no idea until I research them.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_80019\" style=\"width: 835px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-80019\" class=\"wp-image-80019 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/electrical-contractors-licence.jpg\" alt=\"Electrical contractor's licence\" width=\"825\" height=\"407\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/electrical-contractors-licence.jpg 825w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/electrical-contractors-licence-300x148.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/electrical-contractors-licence-768x379.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 825px) 100vw, 825px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-80019\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Before it expired, this hard-earned piece of paper meant that I could be hunted down and made criminally liable for any electrical boo-boos I made.<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>Due Diligence in Solar<\/h2>\n<p>My personal opinion &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t feel comfortable buying a rooftop solar system from a company that didn&#8217;t have an in-house electrical contractor&#8217;s licence.<\/p>\n<p>That licence gives the company credibility and gives me confidence that I&#8217;m dealing with a one-stop shop with technical and industry expertise and can deal with any issues down the line. Whether they use in-house or sub-contract installers is of secondary importance and largely irrelevant.<\/p>\n<p>On SolarQuotes, all companies in our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/solar-installer-ratings.html\">installer network<\/a> display their relevant Contactor Licence(s) on their review page:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-80056\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/contractors-licence.jpg\" alt=\"electrical contractor licence information\" width=\"836\" height=\"672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/contractors-licence.jpg 836w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/contractors-licence-300x241.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/contractors-licence-768x617.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 836px) 100vw, 836px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Due diligence is sometimes a long, painful process that involves many steps and a leap of faith. Sorry folks, but here&#8217;s one more thing to keep you awake at night.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When wading into the murky waters of rooftop solar for the first time you may have come across people advising you to check that the solar company doesn&#8217;t use sub-contractors to install their systems.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":29,"featured_media":80014,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-80007","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-solar-installation","entry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.2 (Yoast SEO v27.2) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>In-House Vs Sub-Contractor Solar Installers: Which Is Best?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Some solar companies claim that in-house solar installation teams are better than using subcontractors. 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