{"id":90927,"date":"2025-04-08T09:17:03","date_gmt":"2025-04-07T23:47:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/?p=90927"},"modified":"2025-06-17T00:03:36","modified_gmt":"2025-06-16T14:33:36","slug":"good-brand-botched","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/good-brand-botched\/","title":{"rendered":"Brand Name, Botched Game: Cheap Installs Of Quality Solar"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_91129\" style=\"width: 1210px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-91129\" class=\"size-full wp-image-91129\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/cdc2b062d48e73d4034b00a8a507a0fa3.jpg\" alt=\"Solar panel installers working at night\" width=\"1200\" height=\"625\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/cdc2b062d48e73d4034b00a8a507a0fa3.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/cdc2b062d48e73d4034b00a8a507a0fa3-300x156.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/cdc2b062d48e73d4034b00a8a507a0fa3-1024x533.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/cdc2b062d48e73d4034b00a8a507a0fa3-768x400.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-91129\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Solar panels don&#8217;t keep working into the night, and neither should solar installers.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Ever heard an installer promise a premium brand of solar panel, battery or inverter for an absolute bargain? As the old saying goes: if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Here&#8217;s why good quality gear doesn&#8217;t always mean a good quality job.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">It&#8217;s easy to pick low-class equipment, which I explored <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/cheap-solar-ads-watch-out-for-the-spin\/\">the dangers of last week<\/a>; it&#8217;s cheap compared to top-of-the-line options like Fronius. <\/span>But if you have two quotes for the same quality hardware but company A is charging half of what company B does, why pay more?<\/p>\n<p>At 50 cents per watt, company A isn&#8217;t just boosting competition, they&#8217;re haunting the whole industry with horribly low margins which make everyone&#8217;s business unsustainable. When warranty problems arise, those companies will disappear.<\/p>\n<p>One NSW-based customer of such an installer, David, allegedly found this out after their fancy Fronius inverter failed and, 35 phone calls later, realised their installer was &#8220;good at taking money but when it comes to after-sales service they are a non-event&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>David continued that: &#8220;This is a simple warranty fault (the inverter failed) and I need some paperwork to claim warranty. They were hard to understand. I also needed to know if they were going to send a technician out or I source my own technician. In the end I had to get a local company to do the work. The installation docket was not signed by the installer which causes problems with warranty &#8230; the technician from the repair company stated the the poor installation of the system was the likely reason for the Fronius failure.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_91130\" style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-91130\" class=\"size-full wp-image-91130\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/b6ee33b9525744ab1a1e887f5deae7cc0.jpg\" alt=\"An error screen. \" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/b6ee33b9525744ab1a1e887f5deae7cc0.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/b6ee33b9525744ab1a1e887f5deae7cc0-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/b6ee33b9525744ab1a1e887f5deae7cc0-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-91130\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Fronius inverter displaying an error allegedly linked to poor installation.<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>Borrowed credibility<\/h2>\n<p>A cheap installer using brand-name gear is just borrowing the credibility and reputation of an expensive brand.<\/p>\n<p>You can install cheap stuff well, it happens all the time, but good gear installed badly is still a terrible outcome.<\/p>\n<p>Ask anyone who bought a 1970s Jaguar assembled locally in New Zealand. British Leyland manufacturing with antipodean assembly was, er, just sublime.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_90834\" style=\"width: 680px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-90834\" class=\"wp-image-90834 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Fronius_vandalism_OTR.jpg\" alt=\"damaged Fronius solar inverter\" width=\"670\" height=\"687\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Fronius_vandalism_OTR.jpg 670w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Fronius_vandalism_OTR-293x300.jpg 293w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 670px) 100vw, 670px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-90834\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The poor Fronius Snap inverter has been vandalised. image credit South Australian Office of the Technical Regulator<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>A Tale Of Two Installs<\/h2>\n<p>I recently asked a fellow installer, how do you judge a &#8220;cheap&#8221; job? His answer; mainly it&#8217;s about time.<\/p>\n<p>His business budgets for 3 man-hours per kilowatt of installed capacity. 6.6kW x 3 equals nearly 20 hours. Add a lunch break and you&#8217;ve spent 7.6 hours per person or roughly speaking, a metric day&#8217;s work.<\/p>\n<p>The example he cited was interesting though, two similar jobs, done serindipitously side by side. One was finished at 4:30pm while the other, which wrapped up at 11:30 am, is now headed for court.<\/p>\n<p>That other quick job involved a $200 deposit over the phone and was supposed to cost $4400 all up, but alarm bells should have been ringing when the install team asked for $4200 as soon as they arrived.<\/p>\n<p>Turns out the T&amp;C fine print said pay before play but the customer refused, which is good because there&#8217;s a laundry list of defects:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>non-complaint panel clamp zones<\/li>\n<li>badly ground\/fitted tiles<\/li>\n<li>conduit inadequately supported with cable ties in the roof<\/li>\n<li>unprotected earth wiring on the array<\/li>\n<li>rails cut off too short<\/li>\n<li>rails badly extended<\/li>\n<li>inverter too close to gas meter<\/li>\n<li>labelling not installed<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Nobody on the roof would identify themselves by anything other than first name until a fourth person showed up, who was the actual licenced installer.<\/p>\n<p>This contravenes the STC rules so I&#8217;m not sure how the time stamped, geotagged selfies were obtained for start, mid install and finish.<\/p>\n<h2>Nobody Wins Except The Lawyers<\/h2>\n<p>Taking this job to court will be difficult as it&#8217;s not actually finished.<\/p>\n<p>The retailer offered a $1000 dollar discount in order to grease the wheels, but the customer is refusing to have the installer back to make good on the original contract. As mentioned, there&#8217;s no labels, no STC claim and no compliance certificate, which means the technical regulator can&#8217;t get involved with the complaint.<\/p>\n<p>The upshot? It&#8217;s perverse but the consumer will likely lose the case in front of a magistrate because they&#8217;ve not been &#8220;reasonable&#8221; enough to get the job sorted.<\/p>\n<h2>Brands Are Indicative But No Guarantee<\/h2>\n<p>Poor installs aside, even high-profile brands slip up. LG Chem have made batteries that are a dismal failure and run a masterclass in what <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/lg-battery-recall-2025-mb3085\/\">not to do for a national recall<\/a>. Qcells have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/qcells-end-australian-operations\/\">disappeared from Australia<\/a> and left a string of disappointed customers and irate installers with warranty battles to deal with.<\/p>\n<p>Sadly we&#8217;ve seen some failures across original equipment manufacturers and the retail price hasn&#8217;t always been instructive.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_90824\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-90824\" class=\"wp-image-90824 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/missing-link-rti.jpg\" alt=\"solar roof top isolator\" width=\"600\" height=\"520\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/missing-link-rti.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/missing-link-rti-300x260.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-90824\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Red arrows show missing links, so for 5 years this was super safe. You can&#8217;t have any rooftop isolator fire if half the system never even works to begin with. Image credit: Jerome Edridge<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>Your Best Bet Is Still A Quality Installer<\/h2>\n<p>At the time of writing this you want to pay around $1000 per kilowatt of solar installed on your roof to get a good company running a sustainable business.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes you&#8217;ll get a reputable subcontractor who occasionally picks up <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installer-review\/arise-solar\/\">a low-paid job from a cheap crowd<\/a>, just to fill a hole in their calendar. So it&#8217;s not impossible to get a good job for cheap, it&#8217;s just not likely.<\/p>\n<p>Be aware that a doorknocker selling systems for $2000\/kW isn&#8217;t likely to be good either, but if you have a multi-faceted, steep slate tile roof in a rural location, the price may still be high for obvious reasons.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_90828\" style=\"width: 535px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-90828\" class=\"wp-image-90828 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/crap-site-map.jpg\" alt=\"terrible solar site map\" width=\"525\" height=\"515\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/crap-site-map.jpg 525w, https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/crap-site-map-300x294.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-90828\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">We really didn&#8217;t have to blur the address, this informative site map is mandated under the rules, is all but illegible anyway.<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>Give Yourself A Break<\/h2>\n<p>Engaging a quality installer at the outset is the best way to ensure you have the least trouble in your electrification process. While there&#8217;s always some chance a rouge apprentice might come crashing through your ceiling, if you <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installer-review\/sunboost\/\">check the one star reviews<\/a>, you&#8217;ll see how the worst installers work.<\/p>\n<p>At SolarQuotes we work with people we know are great. Click on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/quote\/start\/\">&#8220;I&#8217;m ready&#8221;<\/a> button and if by some chance they&#8217;re not, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/blog\/george-terrible-solar-install\/\">we&#8217;ll intervene<\/a> to help or we&#8217;ll put our own money up to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.solarquotes.com.au\/installation-guarantee\/\">make good.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ever heard an installer promise a premium brand of solar panel, battery or inverter for an absolute bargain? As the old saying goes: if something seems too good to be true, it probably is. 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