Adding Solar Panels To Existing System? Here’s What You Need To Know.

solar panels with space for adding more

Here are your options and gotchas when adding solar panels to an existing system.

So you’ve got solar panels on your roof and you want more so you can get your bills even lower?

(Note: If you are on a premium feed in tariff then you need to understand how solar upgrades can affect your eligibility. 

If you are on the NSW solar bonus scheme, then your FiT is ending on 31 December 2016 – and you should time your upgrade to happen as close to this date as possible)

You are probably weighing up 3 alternative approaches to your solar upgrade:

1) Add more panels to your existing system – using your original inverter.

2) Get a new, bigger inverter and add more panels too.

3) Get a whole new separate solar system installed next to the original.

Let’s go through each option in detail so you can weigh up the best approach for you.

Option #1 Adding more panels to existing system using your original inverter.

The first thing to be aware of (and not a lot of people know this) is that you are allowed to have a panel array with a peak power up to 133% of your inverter’s rated peak power.

For example:

If you have a 1.5kW inverter, you can have up to 2kW of panels attached.

If you have a 3kW inverter you can have up to 4kW of panels attached.

If you have a 5kW inverter you can have up to 6.65kW of panels attached.

And if you don’t go over the 133%, you can claim the solar rebate (STCs) on those extra panels which will cover a big chunk of their of their cost (excluding installation costs and installer margin).

So if your inverter is big enough, adding panels is a cost-effective option to get more energy. You may be wondering how on earth this can be the case if the inverter limits the power output. Let’s use a 3kW inverter as an example.

3kW of panels will generally only produce 80% (2.4kW) of their rated peak power due to losses.

4kW of panels, after losses will produce a peak power of 3.2kW. A 3kW inverter will safely clip this down to 3kW. So you are only losing 0.2kW of power. And that is only for a couple of hours each side of midday on a summer’s day. In the mornings, evenings and winter the peak power will be way less than the rated 3kW of thew inverter.

So oversizing your inverter by 133% is a good way to squeeze more energy from it.

Two big caveats here are that:

1)Unless your original solar installer does the upgrade you will void your existing system warranty.

2)It depends on your installer finding the same or very similar panels to your existing ones.

If you want more panels than your inverter can handle (using the 133% rule), or you can’t find compatible panels, then your next option is:

Option #2 Replace your small inverter with a bigger inverter and add panels.

It seems like a waste of money and resources to remove a perfectly good inverter.  However the sad truth is that over the last 7 years a lot of the installed inverters that have been cheap and nasty and are probably on their last legs. If your inverter is a Sunny Roo, KLNE, JFY, JSI, Aerosharp, Sharp, or other inverter with a penchant for going bang after a few years, then this is a great opportunity to replace the thing with a genuine premium inverter, such as SMA.

Another reason to bite the bullet and swap your old inverter for a new bigger one is that one inverter is much easier to add batteries and backup to than two separate ones. So if a battery ready system with backup is a priority, having a single, large inverter is the way to go. (This post explains what a battery ready system with backup is and how that differs from a battery ready system without backup)

If you do decide that up-sizing your inverter is the way to go then watch out for these gotchas:

a) With panel technology changing so quickly, you may struggle to find extra panels that match your existing array. In this case get an inverter with 2 or more inputs so you can install new, different panels without affecting the old array.

b) If possible get the original company to do the work, then they keep the responsibility for the system warranty.

c) I recommend getting an inverter with SUNSPEC/MODBUS. This is a communications protocol that will make it easier to add batteries in the future. All the SMA models on sale now in Australia have this baked in. I would say that SMA are the safest bet here.

Note: ABB inverters can also talk MODBUS with a $500 interface box. And although the Fronius data sheets seem to claim all their inverters talk MODBUS, the word on the street is that in practice it is only usable in their expensive ‘hybrid’ models. Perhaps some one from Fronius would like to comment?

d) You can’t claim any rebate on the inverter, but you can claim the solar rebate on the panels. So put as many panels as you can on that inverter (133% of inverter rated power) because the rebate (STCs) covers a large chunk of their cost.

If you don’t want to replace your existing inverter, then your third option is:

Option #3 Get a whole new separate solar system installed next to the original.

This option can make a lot of sense – if batteries with backup are not on your radar. You get a new system, with a separate warranty. And because installers are so efficient at installing whole systems, and don’t have to fiddle around integrating into existing solar wiring, it can often work out cheaper than upgrading your existing system. And yes – you can claim the solar rebate (STCs) again on your second system – it will already be included in any quoted prices.

So to summarise:

Be aware that you can legally oversize most inverters by 133%. This may give you all the energy you need with your existing inverter.

If 133% of your inverter rating is not enough, then you can replace your inverter to allow you to add more panels. Just be aware that this can be surprisingly expensive as it is not as straightforward as a fresh installation.  If you are getting a new inverter ask for one with MODBUS/SUNSPEC communications as it will be easier to add batteries to in the future. And if the original company does the work then your warranty should stay intact. You do waste your old inverter though.

It is often cheaper to add a whole new solar system using either a conventional string inverter or micro inverters . In grid connect mode these 2 systems side by side will work great, but it can make adding batteries+backup more complicated down the track.

And I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that you can get quotes for a solar system upgrade using my free service here.

About Finn Peacock

I'm a Chartered Electrical Engineer, Solar and Energy Efficiency nut, dad, and founder of SolarQuotes.com.au. My last "real job" was working for the CSIRO in their renewable energy division.

Comments

  1. Hi, I bought a 1.5KW solar system from True Value Solar six years ago. Originally it had a Chinese made Aerosharp inverter. It failed about six months later. After much pressure to True Value Solar, they replaced it with the Growatt brand. So far so good, although it does interfere with my AM radio stations sometimes.

  2. Hi Finn , there are a lot of people upgrading their solar systems by just adding AC Solar modules. They don’t have to add a whole string and allows for easy future upgrades. You can also install on various roof faces to match the energy consumption and you do not have to touch the original system, potentially voiding installation warranty. Plus no high voltage DC wiring and associated issues. If they use Enphase Envoy S Metered they can see the consumption monitoring of the entire solar system (old and new) and can simply add the optimum number of Enphase AC batteries once they know exactly how much energy they are exporting.

  3. Ahh.I will correct you here.The Solar rebate does not pay most of the cost.
    To put an extra 4X260watts on your roof will still cost you around $800.00 to $900.00 .I shopped around but I used my original installer and that is what it cost.As for claiming the rebate you can’t claim the rebate.The rebate if any is claimed by the installer and I can assure you the panels are not for free.

    • A 260W Tier 1 panel wholesales for about $200 + GST. STCs are approx $800 per kW installed. So the wholesale cost of the panels is pretty much covered by the STCs.

      Of course the installer must add a margin and installation cost and racking etc (as I point out in the post). But the majority of the cost of the panel hardware is covered by the rebate.

      And you are perfectly entitled to claim the rebate yourself. It is just a lot easier to get the installer to do it for you.

      • Of course but it is on the fitted price of the panels and then the STC,s are applied so it works out roughly at $200.00 per panel but the starting price is in my case on 20 panels was 10,000 plus GST less $4,000 (107 stc’s @38.00) equals $6,000 plus GST cost $6,600.
        The fitting of just 4 panels still requires a road trip of 2 hours and 4 hours fitting for one person plus the profit on the panels and hardware so in my case having 4 panels the starting price would have been $1600.00 (allowing for no inverter) in total less the rebate, so apply that to 20 panels it equals $8,000 plus the cost of the inverter which looks about right give or take $80-90.
        So the retail fitted price is around $400.00 to $500.00 per panel and of course many operators charge much more than that so the cost of 4 panels is still $800.00 and upwards.

  4. G’day Finn,

    I recently heard from a solar installer that, in NSW, the size of the system (for the purposes of the 60c FIT) is gauged by the size of the inverter. Their advice to people faced with the FIT running out was to add more panels, i.e. oversize the array up to 133% as you suggest. According to them, this will not affect the FIT because the inverter size hasn’t changed. They also suggest that the 60c FIT will pay for most of the extra panel cost before it runs out.

    Your thoughts?

    • Hi Andy,

      My understanding is that you cannot add panels to an existing inverter if you are on the 60c scheme and keep getting 60c for all the energy.

      Although the offical guidelines are really badly written:

      http://www.resourcesandenergy.nsw.gov.au/energy-consumers/solar/solar-bonus-scheme/solar-bonus-scheme-faq#4

      What is clear from the FAQ above is that:

      “You must notify your distributor of any change to your Scheme generator that would affect your receipt of Scheme payments. Fines and penalties of up to $110,000 may apply for failure to notify.”

      So my advice is not to just do it and hope the rules are in your favour. I have heard reports of distributors using nearmaps to look for extra panels on roofs and then penalising owners.

      I would call up your distributor and and them if you are OK adding extra panels and not changing your inverter (as the official guidelines are ambiguous). If they say it is OK and you won’t lose your 60c – get it in writing before proceeding.

      Hope That Helps,

      Finn

      • The official guidelines you have linked clearly indicate that the ‘size’ of the system [vis-a-vis changes to it] is not gauged by the inverter size since you can upsize the inverter [up to 10kW] without affecting the tariff but that the 60c tariff will not be paid on power generated by new panels [vide ‘separately metered’, etc.].

        • Finn Admin says:

          How do you separately meter extra panels if they are on the same inverter as the old panels?

          • That’s your problem, not the government’s. The rules say what you may or may not do (in isolation) not necessarily what you can or cannot do together. The fact that the rule on separate metering doesn’t mention separate inverters doesn’t mean you can somehow avoid it – you can’t make assumptions from what the rule doesn’t say.

  5. Hi

    I am going to use one of the three solar installers that you have put forward to me. Thank You.
    I Just want to confirm a few things to make sure that i have read your helpful articles and hints correctly.
    1. We have just been told that we have 3 phase power.( we didn’t realise when we bought our home last September)
    From what you say, It is preferable and more straightforward to just apply solar to the one phase?
    2. We wanted a big system because our electricity bills are around the $1,000 mark with no heating or aircons in the home. The Plumber we used to install a Sanden heat pump for cheaper hot water told us.
    Reading your info regarding oversizing with extra panels, I’m thinking that a 5 kw system inverter (which is the maximum we can install using the single phase) May suffice and instead of the 24 x 260 panels = 6 kw, we have been offered, Maybe we could ask for 25 x 260 panels and this would add up to about 6.5 kw? The maximum to we are allowed to still get and receive our stc’s ? Does that sound right?
    3. We have a very large roof with areas East, West, North and South.
    Would it be wise to put most panels on the North side and some on the West for the late afternoon sun and some on the East side for the early morning sun?
    4. We are on the Sunshine Coast QLD and the Tariffs we have in this house are 33, 31 and peak.
    What is standard tariff ? And should we be on this tariff to use as much solar power before it goes to the grid?
    Apologies if i havn’t understood the info you have supplied correctly.

    Regards
    Gillian Armstrong

    • Hi Gillian,

      1) Yes – if you are happy with a 5kW maximum inverter, then it is fine to go into a single phase with the solar. A 3 phase inverter would allow you to go bigger.

      2) Yes 6.5kW of panels into a 5kW inverter is a good move.

      3) I would recommend 2kW East, 2kW West and 2.5kW North. A 2 input inverter with the E and W on one input and the N on the other input can work well. Micro inverters would work well too. The E/W and N split will give you a more even spread of power from sunrise to sunset, increasing self consumption of the solar, saving more money.

      4) Tariff 31 is very cheap and can be used to boost your HW overnight very cheaply – so I’d keep it. Depending on your consumption – it may be worth putting everything else that can be run in daytime on the standard tariff so the solar can offset it. But your installer will be able to advise you on this based on what appliances you have.

      Hope That Helps,

      Finn

    • Tom Roberts says:

      Go with Enphase microinverters which give you a truly decentralized, fault-tolerant solar PV system. Central string inverters are an Achilles Heal!!

  6. Hi Guys,

    You cannot claim STCs for addtionnal panels if your inverter is not on CEC list. Most of the old inverters are not on the list anymore because of the change of regulation. !

  7. Hi All, we are looking at putting a second 5kw system on our shed roof. We have a current 5kw system our house which was installed about 4 years ago. We live in Brisbane and receive the feed in tarif rate of I think 45c or there about per kw which was before the axed the higher FIT’s. My question is if we runs a separate system alongside the existing and feed it back into the grid will we still receive the same FIT with double the feed in. Does this present any issues. Thanks.

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hello Wayne. I’m afraid that any increase in the capacity of your solar system will result in you losing your high feed-in tariff. While you can repair or replace defective components of your old system it’s not permitted to make any change that increases the system’s original capacity. Unfortunately, this includes adding an additional system.

      Update 4 June: Sorry Wayne, what I wrote above was actually wrong. In Queensland it is possible to increase the panel capacity up to one-third larger than the capacity of the inverter and keep the 44 cent feed-in tariff. Unfortunately any change in panel capacity will require the entire system be brought up to current standards which will mean replacing the old inverter with a new one of the same or smaller capacity.

  8. Hi Ronald, thanks for the reply. Do we loose the feed in tariff if we up the existing system to to 133% panels?

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Yes, I’m afraid so. Any increase in capacity will result in the loss of the tariff.

      • Richard says:

        How does that work, as the size of the inverter will not be changed only that it will now be putting out the full amount ( hopefully ) that was applied for in the original application to get the tariff .

        • Ronald Brakels says:

          Sorry, what I wrote was not correct. In Queensland it is possible to increase the capacity of the panels and keep the 44 cent feed-in tariff provided the capacity of the inverter remains the same. But, unfortunately, any change in the capacity of the solar panels will mean the entire system will need to be brought up to current standards, which will mean the inverter will need to be replaced with a new one of identical or smaller capacity.

          Thanks for pointing out my mistake.

  9. Hi all,
    not sure if this is covered on this blog somewhere, but here goes.

    I’d like to add some extra capacity to my system, but in a strange way maybe.

    We’ve had a Solaredge solarstor 5kw inverter coupled to 19 x 325w LG Neon2 panels for six months now. They are pointing in the most productive direction (just) but I can see that if I had more panels pointing in an easterly direction, that were in some way switched too for use later in the day, my system would generate more KWH each day. Is this even possible?

    Our shed also has ample spare roof capacity which currently unused. It’s a separate building from the main house and has it’s own circuit from the main service box and it’s own breaker unit inside the shed. All the swimming pool equipment. plus some battery powered garden equipment and large wood working tools are powered in the shed. If it had it’s own solar system these cost would never reach my bill. It would also reduce the chance of importing from the network during the day and allow me to choose a smaller battery for evening use when the time comes. (what a shame Tesla stopped making the DC Powerwall2 unit). I’m guessing it would mean (electrically) separating the garage from the house and living with the fact that, on cloudy days I can’t mow the lawn or heat the pool. Living at Tewantin on the Sunshine coast, I think I could live with that 🙂

    Any comments or ideas gratefully received.

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hello Rob. I believe it is possible to have a set of east facing panels and a set of west facing panels and switch that ensures only one set is ever connected to the inverter at one time. This way you’d never have panels with a total capacity greater than 133% that of the inverter connected to it at any one time, which is the limit. But unfortunately this won’t be cheap as you won’t receive STCs for the extra set of panels and will have to pay their full cost yourself. And of course there is the cost of getting the switch installed.

      Another option is to put the solar panels on a tracker so they follow the sun through the day, but this is not likely to be a practical option.

  10. Arief Abdul Wahab says:

    Hi,
    I have been following this site on and off. I do have a question about adding more panels. I had 7.8kW system installed last year (30 panels of Trina Duo Max) and a fronius 8kw inverter (Fronius symo 8.2-3-M). All panels facing North. I enquired to my installer regarding adding more panels but they said because of the way it’s wired (I am not technical, sorry) , it cannot be done without adding another inverter. This was the reply

    “The current way the system is wired is 2 x 9 and 1 x 12 all facing one direction.

    Unfortunately, adding 6 panels to the same inverter will not work with the current wiring.

    The alternative is that we add a Galvo inverter on there with the extra 6 panels”

    I am in Adelaide by the way.

    Please advice.

  11. Arief Abdul Wahab says:

    Finn,

    Thanks for the reply and the reference. Indeed both MPPTs are being used for north facing panels 2×9 and 1×12. Would it be better/economical to add another MPPT for upcoming panels on west facing roof? Can add about 10 more panels max….

  12. Finn,
    Our Brisbane residential body corporate committee want reassurance that our Energex approved 15 kWH system approved in 2011 and installed with a Sunny Tripower 150000 inverter can have additional panels to take it up to 133% of the 15KWH ie to say 19 Kwh ? The chairman thought a regulation was bought in in 2016/17 to stop extra panels receiving the STC rebate or eligibility to the 44c FIT we currently receive, but I can’t find any such reference to such a regulation. There is plenty of space available on the north facing flat roof for the extra panels and quoters dont have any issues with the extra panels to install.

    Many thanks
    Bill

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      As far as keeping the 44 cent feed-in tariff is concerned, you can increase the capacity of your solar panel array up to one-third larger than the capacity of the inverter, as long as you don’t increase the capacity of the inverter. But, if you want to add panels, you will be required to bring the entire system up to date. This includes replacing the old inverter with one that meets current standards. This will be a considerable extra expense, but it is possible you will find it worthwhile. As panel capacity can be one-third larger than inverter capacity, with a 15 kilowatt inverter you could have a maximum of 20 kilowatts of panels.

  13. Raymond Simms says:

    Hello Finn,
    I have a Fronius IG30 inverter and 7 Sunpower E20 panels installed in 2013.
    Is it worthwhile increasing the number of panels in your opinion, please.
    Thank you

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hello Raymond, Ronald here.

      The Fronius IG30 inverter has a capacity of 2.65 kilowatts.

      I am not certain what the capacity of SunPower E20 panels were back in 2013, but if they were the same as today, they will be 327 watts each, giving a total of 2.289 kilowatts of solar panels.

      With your inverter you can install a maximum of 3.53 kilowatts of panels, so you could add up to 1.24 kilowatts of additional panels. That would be 3 SunPower E20 panels.

      Because the cost of installing 3 additional panels is likely to be high compared to the amount of electricity they produce, you may want to consider putting the money towards installing a new solar system on your roof in addition to your existing one. (Alternatively, you could remove your existing system and install a large new one, but your old system should still have plenty of years of service left in it.)

      If you are in Queensland you will almost certainly have to replace your old inverter to bring the system up to current standards if you add panels, so it is not likely to be worthwhile there.

  14. David Hince says:

    Hi,
    I checked with my original solar installer about upgrading my solar system – currently 6kw panels with 5kw inverter. But they said if I go over 6.6kw of panels then I will lose my 7c Feed In tariff for the whole system (I was thinking of adding another 6kw – preferably as separate system with another inverter) . Whilst the FIT is quite low at 7c, it would definitely make upgrading less attractive. Does that sound right to you, I hadn’t heard of losing the FIT if you add too many panels before? I’m in WA.

    regards
    David

  15. john fisher says:

    Hello Finn,

    Missing from this article is a fourth method (unless it doesn’t work): Political/Tariff/rebate, etc. questions aside, are there any technical reasons (ie:sparks, loud noises, etc.) that would prevent properly backfeeding 6 or 8 microinverter panels into a remotely located sub panel (in the garage) alongside an existing (far away) “standard” string inverter system at the main house?

    Thanks,
    John Fisher

  16. Paul Waiting says:

    HELLO I AM NOT AFTER A REBATE AS I USE 100KW PER DAY AND I HAVE A 5KW SYSTEM lARGE 10 BEDROOM HOUSE I AM ON PHASE I POWER I WANT TO ADD AT THE MOMENT AT THIS TIME A EXTRA 5KW WHAT DOES IT COST TO CHANGE FROM PHASE 1 TO PHASE 3 I AM IN MELBOURNE REGARDS PAUL

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      HELLO PAUL

      That’s a good question. The cost of converting to three phase can vary considerably. I’ve seen claims that it can cost as little as $2,000 but I think that can’t include the cost of rewiring the house and with a huge house that may cost a lot. All up it can apparently cost over $5,000 for a typical home and potentially much more if you are not in a good location for it. The first step would be to check who your Distributed Network Service Provider is (it will be on your bill) and see if they have any information about it online. Then you can try contacting them. (Sometimes they take a long time to answer the phone.)

      Merry Christmas!

  17. Bill Ligakis says:

    Hi,
    I have a 6kw inverter with 3kw of panels that was on the old tariff system but is now on the new tariff system. I have also got a 4kw system that is 4kw inverter and 4kw panels, that was installed on the new tariff system.

    What i want to know is because i have 10kw of inverters approved and only 7kw of panels can i add more panels up to the 10kw of what the inverters are capable off.( i live in Wagga Wagga NSW)??

    I have also purchased Enphase micro inverters to replace the existing 2 x inverters. Can i just replace the existing inverters or do i need to let the Electricity company i think it is Essential Energy know that i want to do this.?

    I just can’t get a straight answer out of anybody i talk to in the solar game.

    Thanks

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hello Bill

      What you have planned, replacing the old inverters with Enphase microinverters, should be fine. As long as you don’t exceed the original capacity it’s no different than if your old inverters had broken down and you were replacing them.

      Note the inverter capacity of Enphase microinverters is 10 less than their number. So S230 microinverters are 220 watts and S270 ones are 260 watts. This means you could have up to 43 S230 microinverters and be under 10 kilowatts.

      • Bill Ligakis says:

        Hi,
        I have a 6kw inverter with 3kw of panels that was on the old tariff system but is now on the new tariff system. I have also got a 4kw system that is 4kw inverter and 4kw panels, that was installed on the new tariff system.

        What i want to know is because i have 10kw of inverters approved and only 7kw of panels can i add more panels up to the 10kw of what the inverters are capable off.( i live in Wagga Wagga NSW)??

        I have also purchased Enphase micro inverters to replace the existing 2 x inverters. Can i just replace the existing inverters or do i need to let the Electricity company i think it is Essential Energy know that i want to do this.?

        I just can’t get a straight answer out of anybody i talk to in the solar game.

        Thanks

        Hi Ronald,

        So your saying i can add an extra 3kw of panels and then convert them all to micro inverters because i have already been approved for the 10kw because of my 6kw + 4kw inverter.

        Is this correct?

        Thanks
        Bill

        • Ronald Brakels says:

          Hello again Bill.

          I looked up Essential Energy’s page on solar and other micro embedded generation, which can be found here:

          https://www.essentialenergy.com.au/at-home/micro-embedded-generation

          Looking up their Connecting to the Network Information Pack, that can be downloaded from the same page, I see they define a connection alteration as:

          “A connection alteration is an alteration to an existing connection including an addition, upgrade, extension, expansion, augmentation or any other type of change including embedded generation.”

          So it looks like anything you do, including simply replacing an inverter, you “…will need to submit an Application for Low Voltage Connection to be assessed by Essential Energy.”

          To me it seems like they are making work for themselves by covering everything, but those are apparently the rules.

  18. Hi Finn
    I have a 10kw CMS three phase inverter with 3 MPPS outputs which apparently is unusual . currently I have 36 x 185watt panels. which gives me 6.660kw As I understand your information can I hook the 36 panels equalling 6.660 to two outputs and then set up the other output to the south west side of the roof in the form of 14 panels x 260watts equalling 3.620kw, or am I completely out of the ball park re the balance of load on the inverter.

    Cheers Rob

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hello Rob, Ronald here.

      You wrote MPPS but I am guessing you meant to write MPPT? If you have 3 Multiple Power Point Trackers then this is unusual, but would be very handy for some installations.

      What you have planned sounds good. As long as the panels in each array on each separate MPPT all share the same tilt and orientation it should not be a problem. You should be able to find the inverter’s installation manual online. That will tell you exactly what you can do.

  19. Gavin fisher says:

    I would like option no three and a quote for a one kw system with out changing my inverter so I don’t need lose my exiting feed back which is 50 cents a kw thanks Gavin ph 0419400944 .

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      I have passed on your comment to Robert and hopefully he’ll be able to help you, but he is away until Monday.

  20. Brenton D McLean says:

    Brenton D McLean
    May 9, 16:10 ACST

    I have an old 1kw system installed in 2008 can it be replaced with a new more efficient system without losing my $0.60 feedin rate?

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hi Brenton

      Generally there is nothing that can be done. I’m guessing you are in South Australia and I’m afraid if you increase the capacity of your household’s solar you will lose the old high feed-in tariff. However, if the panels are failing, you can replace them.

      It is possible you may come out ahead by forgoing your old feed-in tariff and getting a new large solar system installed. Often the easiest way to go about it is to replace the old system and install a single large new one. Here’s an article I wrote on the subject:

      https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/scrap-your-1-5kw/

      But some people decide it’s easier to just keep their small system and instead help put solar on a relative’s roof.

  21. Lewis Cheung says:

    I had a Sharp Inverter installed in 2011 with 7 Solar Panels and I am on 60c feedin tariff. I am thinking of increasing the panels to 133% capacity. Woudl I lose my feedin tariff ? I am in Victoria

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hi Lewis

      Unfortunately, adding extra panels to your system will cause you to lose your premium feed-in tariff.

  22. Hi,

    I live in Adelaide and have the feed in tariff with a Solar shop SMA Sunny boy 2500 inverter and 25 Kaneka 60Watt thin filmed(1.5KW Installed 2010) on top of the shed roof with enough space for expansion. I have confirmation in writing from SA power the system was originally registered for Total Generation Capacity of 2.9KW. I’m not sure whether the 2.9KW’s refers to the inverters capacity or the amount of panels on the roof. Its my understanding that i can upgrade to the 2.9KW without losing the FiT (is this correct?) and how many additional KW’s of panels can be installed (eg 1.4KW’s taking it up to 2.9KW or taking into account the 133% rule is it different?)

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hi Sean

      According to my understanding of the rules you can increase your solar panel capacity up to Total Generation Capacity of 2.9 kilowatts. Your current 2.5 kilowatt inverter will be fine for this but it will probably be very difficult to find 60 watt panels to match your current ones. You may need to replace them all which will add to the cost of expanding your system out to 2.9 kilowatts.

  23. John McMahon says:

    Hello Finn,
    I have a 3 kw inverter with 2 kw of panels. It was always my intention to add more panels when the subsidy scheme finished. I am now told by installers that panel technology has changed and that I can’t legally install more 185w panels to an ‘on grid’ system and that I need to instead to purchase 3kw of panels. Is this correct?

    • Ronald Brakels says:

      Hello John, Ronald here.

      I am afraid that’s likely to be correct as older inverters generally no longer meet current standards. On option is to install a second separate solar system on your roof. For example you could install a 3 kilowatt inverter with up to 4 kilowatts of panels. Another option is to remove your old system and install a completely new system.

      If you are receiving an old high feed in tariff it may not make economic sense for you to change from your current situation.

      • John McMahon says:

        Thanks for responding Ronald. As it turned out, the original inverter gave up in 2017 as the NSW subsidy scheme finished and I was changing to a net meter. I now have a new 3 kw inverter, so that part is OK. The problem I’m told is the illegality of adding more 185w panels, which are considered obsolete. Is that correct? It seems wasteful to throw away 2kw of perfectly good panels when I only want to add another 1kw. Also, are 185w panels still available?

        • Ronald Brakels says:

          It’s not illegal to add new panels that meet Australian standards but it is going to be incredibly difficult to find new 185 watt panels and old second hand ones may not meet fire safety standards. But if your 3 kilowatt inverter has two Multiple Power Point Trackers (MPPTs) then it can have two separate strings of panels. It may be possible to put your 185w panels onto one string and new higher wattage panels onto the second string. If your inverter only has one MPPT then I suppose adding new panels with optimisers would be an option. If you only want one additional kilowatt of panel capacity you could add 3 large new panels with microinverters but that is not a cheap option.

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