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Solar power outside peak sun hours

How much power can a solar system crank well outside of the “golden hours” for PV electricity generation? Here’s an example.

While peak sun hours generally fall between 10AM – 4PM, even not long after sunrise and towards sunset can see useful levels of power generated.

Making the most of solar power is about maximising self-consumption; running power-hungry appliances during high solar energy production hours where possible in order to minimise mains grid electricity consumption. But lower-power appliances can start running purely off your solar panel output not long after the sun has cleared the horizon.

I recently had a 10kW solar system installed consisting of 24 Trina Solar Vertex S+ panels, a Fronius inverter (Primo 8.2-1) and Fronius smart meter. It’s not a perfect setup in terms of panel orientations (2 roof faces – NNE and WNW) and our current energy consumption profile1, but not particularly bad either.

During its first week of life on our home’s rooftop, I was keeping a pretty close eye on things, watching system performance under various conditions courtesy of the real-time reporting generated in Fronius Solar.web. This service also offers various daily, weekly and monthly reporting options as well, with reports you can download in CSV or Excel format  to peruse at your leisure.

Spring In Our Solar Step

Spring is a pretty good time for solar energy production given the longer daylight hours, (generally) clearer skies and often mild daytime temperatures (heat is the enemy of solar panel efficiency). While this spring has been a bit crap on the clear skies front to date in Adelaide,  here’s how things panned out in terms of power output on a clear, mild day in late September up to around mid-morning and then from late afternoon.

  • Inverter had “woken up” by 5.38 AM2.
  • Sunrise began at 6.03 am
  • 6.04 AM: 10W – enough to power an LED light fixture
  • By the time the sun had cleared the horizon (but houses in the way) – around 50W.
  • 6.15 AM: 100W – enough to power a few LED lights and a notebook, with capacity to spare.
  • 6.50 AM: 1kW – more than enough to start the washing machine (cold cycle) as well.
  • 7.15 AM: 2kW – turn on the big screen (LED) TV while waiting on the washing. You’ll still have power to spare.
  • 8.10 AM: 4kW – along with everything else above, the kettle could go on – and that only draws for a couple of minutes. Among other appliances that could be used is a microwave oven or a vaccuum cleaner. You could start loading up at this point.
  • 8.35 AM: 5kW output.

.. and so on, until around 10.25 AM when the system had reached its maximum output (while I was testing) with various appliances in use and the SAPN-imposed solar export limit of 5kW in play. It reached about 7.93kW output at its best while fiddling.

solar power output - 10kW system

But we should have whacked on another appliance to see if we could squeeze a bit more out of it; bearing in mind while there’s 10kW of solar panels, the solar inverter is rated at 8.2kW. Having more panel capacity than inverter capacity is a common practice called oversizing – explained here.

Then towards the evening, I kept an eye on output at various stages again:

  • 4 PM: 4kW
  • 4.15 PM: 3.4kW
  • 4.30 PM: 2.8kW
  • 4.45 PM: 2.3kW
  • 5 PM: 1.8kW
  • 5:15 PM: 1.5kW
  • 5.30 PM: 750W
  • 5.45 PM: 280W
  • 6 PM: 196W
  • Sunset (sun down over horizon): 6:13pm
  • 6:15 PM: 0W
  • Last light – 6:38pm.
  • 6.47 PM inverter goes offline.

Something I failed to do was set up daily energy3 production reporting (5 minute intervals) in Fronius Solar.web – which was rather silly. It would have been useful to show total energy production for those two periods on that day4. But even without this information, the above shows a largish solar power system can make worthy contribution well outside of peak sun hours!

Footnotes

  1. We have plans to make better use of the system – hopefully some of which will come to fruition soon.
  2. At this point, I still hadn’t engaged “night mode” for my Fronius inverter, which in combination with a Fronius Smart Meter enables you keep tabs on energy consumption data overnight – this is a part of advanced solar monitoring, which is well worth having
  3. kW = power, kWh = energy – learn about the difference between power and energy.
  4. Just as some indication, on Friday 21 October when there was some cloud about and a time-frame difference due to daylight savings in effect; between 6.45AM and 9.15AM there was around 4.75 kWh of production. Between 5PM and 7.40PM, 4.8kWh.
About Michael Bloch

Michael caught the solar power bug after purchasing components to cobble together a small off-grid PV system in 2008. He's been reporting on Australian and international solar energy news ever since.

Comments

  1. Not a perfect setup in terms of panel orientations (for max energy at peak sun/over a day?), but is the extra energy at times of peak demand is more valuable? If not for your personal consumption then for the grid and your fellow citizens. Would love to know how much less ideal N facing array would produce at peak demand.

    I’m new to thinking about solar, in a strata property waiting for enough of us to approve. At a system level I’m curious whether more solar installations including east and west facing panels could reduce the need for future storage and associated expense at a national level.

    I noticed you hit 2kW at 7:15am even at NNE. Assuming morning peak demand is driven by the 7-8am ‘hour of shower’ and water heaters going gangbusters for an hour or two afterwards, could we even have most morning peak demand sewn up with enough E and NE facing panels in the country?

    • I have 2 separate solar panel systems, the original 6.6Kw panels split to face East and West and a newer 6.4 Kw system facing North.
      There is not much difference in output at either end of the day.

      Any benefit of eg the East panels facing the sun better in the morning is offset by the fact that the full North facing system is active compared to half the original system.

      Overall the North system is better if you have a choice, but you don’t lose a lot if you have to go East/West.

  2. If your export is limited by kW per phase restriction, then the E-W panels are not bad to spread the generation time and therefore increase export. Larger N facing systems can get “clipped” in the middle of the day unless you have enough load

    I have Fronius inverters and the App seems to have been made by electrical engineers for electrical engineers. Lots of glorious detail but hard to use. Clunky. I haven’t used it once since I added a Powerwall and just use the fabulous Tesla App

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